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URL: https://github.com/apache/superset/issues/40704#issuecomment-4677730354

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   Great question — this is an important distinction for understanding the 
filter scope contract.
   
   **`chartsInScope` and `tabsInScope` are derived/runtime metadata, not 
persisted schema fields.** They should not be relied upon as stable API 
contracts by downstream consumers.
   
   Here's what's happening:
   
   - **Source of truth**: The `scope` object (`rootPath` + `excluded`) remains 
the canonical, persisted representation of filter scope. It's stored in the 
dashboard's `json_metadata` and included in exports 
[[1]](https://github.com/apache/superset/blob/829e4d92d91ceae4b43b1ed3b063ffe45377799c/superset/commands/dashboard/export.py#L119-L135).
   
   - **Runtime derivation**: `chartsInScope` is computed dynamically on the 
frontend using `getChartIdsInFilterScope()`, which resolves the `scope` 
definition against the dashboard layout 
[[2]](https://github.com/apache/superset/blob/829e4d92d91ceae4b43b1ed3b063ffe45377799c/superset-frontend/src/dashboard/components/DashboardBuilder/DashboardContainer.tsx#L168-L172).
 `tabsInScope` is then always derived from `chartsInScope` using 
`findTabsWithChartsInScope()` 
[[3]](https://github.com/apache/superset/blob/829e4d92d91ceae4b43b1ed3b063ffe45377799c/superset-frontend/src/dashboard/components/nativeFilters/utils.ts#L163-L176).
   
   - **Not persisted**: These fields are excluded from dashboard exports and 
are regenerated from scratch when a dashboard loads. No backend database 
migrations exist for them — they live only in frontend React/Redux state 
[[4]](https://github.com/apache/superset/blob/829e4d92d91ceae4b43b1ed3b063ffe45377799c/superset-frontend/packages/superset-ui-core/src/query/types/Dashboard.ts#L57-L81).
   
   - **Why they appear in 6.1.0**: They were introduced as a denormalized cache 
to support tab-aware filter visibility. PR #32196 added backend awareness for 
alert reports [[5]](https://github.com/apache/superset/pull/32196), PR #37139 
updated the `useIsFilterInScope` hook to prioritize `chartsInScope` for 
determining filter visibility 
[[6]](https://github.com/apache/superset/pull/37139), and PR #40140 fixed 
import remapping for these fields 
[[7]](https://github.com/apache/superset/pull/40140).
   
   **For version-compatible processing logic**: You should treat 
`scope.rootPath` + `scope.excluded` as the stable contract. The 
`chartsInScope`/`tabsInScope` fields are an optimization for the frontend's 
runtime filter visibility logic. If you're seeing them in a YAML export from 
6.1.0, that may indicate they're being inadvertently serialized in some code 
path — they are *supposed* to be stripped during export.
   
   This also ties back to the original issue you identified: since scope 
resolution now relies on these runtime-computed fields (via 
`useIsFilterInScope`), a broken layout tree where charts are missing proper 
`parents` chains means `chartsInScope` gets computed incorrectly during 
hydration, causing filters to silently fail to apply.
   
   
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