Hi Antoine-- [epic story and funny rnat trimmed down to the salient bug reports and feature requests because i'm a boring person]
On Tue 2019-11-12 17:19:05 -0500, Antoine Beaupré wrote: > I would argue that notmuch should at least allow me to recover from a > power failure like this, as a MUA. It should "know" that message-mode > stores those messages there, and, why not, also store its tempfiles > there. This seems like a very specific ask. I think what we want more generally is a sensible unification of the notmuch-emacs drafting behaviors such that message-mode autosaves are discoverable and recoverable in the same way that deliberately-saved drafts are. If that means that notmuch learns about message-mode drafts, that's one solution. But it could also mean that notmuch-emacs overrides message-mode's autosave drafting approach, and fixes things there too. or, we somehow fix message-mode? > And indeed, if I hit [control-x control-s] on this message, it *does* > get saved as a "draft" in that it gets written in: > > ~/Maildir/drafts/cur/1573596264.M156307P32312.curie:2,DF > > That's a great improvement already. I don't remember exactly when or how > this happened, but that's great and I thank whoever did that for us > here. That was Mark Walters (in Cc), see the series from 2016 starting at: id:1479046130-2716-1-git-send-email-markwalters1...@gmail.com Thank you, Mark! > To make a long story short, I think the following should happen: > > 1. message-mode should automatically cleanup after itself a little > better (not notmuch's job? yay double-negative, that means it's much > job!) > > 2. encrypted emails should *never* be written in cleartext on the > filesystem (not notmuch job, which also means it's much job!) > > 3. notmuch's draft subsystem should know about Emacs' autosave files > and somehow show them in the UI Much of the above sounds like message-mode cleanup work to me. It might be worth asking the message-mode folks to weigh on in this strategy. Alternately, it might help to characterize the differences between message-mode autosaving and notmuch explicit drafting. - message-mode autosaves happen without your knowledge. notmuch draft saving only happens when you explicitly C-x C-s - message-mode autosaves are automatically cleaned up from the filesystem after you send. notmuch saved drafts persist in your mailstore until you remove them (though they are tagged with "delete") - message-mode autosaves appear to save in cleartext even when the message will be encrypted(‽). if you try to C-x C-s on a notmuch draft, notmuch-emacs gives you a big ol' warning and won't let you save it in plaintext unless you agree (see notmuch-draft-save-plaintext). (Maybe there's a third behavior which would be better than all of these, which is to explicitly save the draft of encrypted messages encrypted-to-self-only, but that's not implemented, afaict) Does this all sound right? There's a lot to unpack here. --dkg
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