On Thu 2020-07-02 18:02:34 -0400, Kevin Foley wrote: > Daniel Kahn Gillmor <d...@fifthhorseman.net> writes: >> and it could take three values: >> >> - nil (default), shows the Date: header as received >> - t, shows the timestamp from the Date: header in local time, >> with the as-received header in parens afterward (see below) >> - "only", shows only the timestamp in localtime >> > > I feel like "only" makes more sense as the option to be used for t, and > having "both" as another option.
I'm fine either way.
>> so if your system is TZ=UTC, and notmuch-show-date-header-localtime is
>> set to t, and you're looking at a message sent from TZ=America/New_York,
>> you might see:
>>
>> Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2020 19:34:53 +0000 (Thu, 02 Jul 2020 15:34:53 -0400)
>
> Actually, seeing it written out here makes me realize some people could
> potentially prefer:
>
> Date: {sent-tz-datetime} ({system-tz-datetime})
>
> or some other kind of formatting.
>
> Would it make sense to allow a function instead of "both", which would
> be passed the time and let the user return it formatted how they would
> like? Or is that over-complicating things?
For a toolkit, i like the idea of a function. For an end-user-facing
MUA, i like opinionated decisions that do obviously the right thing,
without requiring the user to fiddle with anything.
We're struggling a bit here because notmuch-emacs is sort of in the
middle of these two things -- sometimes the one, other times the other.
Pushing on the "just do the right thing" front:
What if there were no configuration variable at all, and it just always
shows "both" ? Or, even cleverer, what if it only shows both if the
current TZ differs from the sender's TZ?
So if i'm in TZ=America/New_York, and the sender is in
TZ=America/New_York, i would just see the normal header:
Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2020 13:22:36 -0400
But if the sender is in TZ=Europe/Berlin, i would see:
Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2020 13:22:36 -0400 [Fri, 03 Jul 2020 19:22:36 +0200]
(Note that RFC 5322 Date format shows the hour offset, but not the
actual TZ -- i can't tell from -0400 whether someone is in
TZ=America/New_York or TZ=America/Manaus)
Is there anyone who would complain about this just being the default
behavior -- with no additional settings to change?
--dkg
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