Nice follow-upabout what other browsers do!

David Bremner <> writes:

> Tomi Ollila <> writes:
>> On Mon, May 31 2021, David Bremner wrote:
>>> Tomi Ollila <> writes:
>>>> I am for 'ripping the bandage off' and not configure mail-user-agent
>>>> outside of notmuch use (and just require 'notmuch would not set 
>>>> anything...)
>>>> Could we have some 'compose-mail' variant (different name, of course;
>>>> I had one in mind but then came off-by one problem... >;) which 
>>>> configures mail-user-agent just for that use (or something).
>>> Are you thinking about notmuch-mua-mail (which exists)?
>>> Tory, did you try the eval-after-load trick I mentioned btw? That seemed
>>> to work in my testing, and I'm just not sure that customizing a
>>> notmuch-* variable is much less annoying than adding an eval-after-load to
>>> reset the variable after notmuch messes with it.

No, I'm guilty here. I used my patch instead and haven't looked back since. I 
think having to add code lines to an init file is much more annoying (and less 
transparent) than simply having something for which I can add a =:custom= line 
in my use-package statements, or new users just use the customizer to explore 
to. Maybe that's just me, but I feel much more comfortable about sharing that 
config or that suggestion with others, too. Explorability is what customizer's 
big benefit to emacs is, so it seems to me a real advantage to have this in 

>>> Still waiting for feedback from notmuch users that actually use M-x
>>> compose-mail or other similar generic entry points.
>> Does anyone know how compose-mail behaves when one has loaded any other
>> emacs mua (mh, vm, gnus, mu, ...) ?
> As far as I can tell
>    vm: only locally binds mail-user-agent
>    mh-e: used to have a setq mail-user-agent, removed in 2003-ish
>    mu4e: documents how to set mail-user-agent
>    rmail: reads mail-user-agent, but does not set
>    gnus: only locally binds mail-user-agent
>    wanderlust: tells you how how to set mail-user-agent (and oddly, how
>                to define conditionaly define a user agent)
> So I think notmuch is the odd one out here.
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