got you!

but the npanday-settings.xml is more about the SDK binaries than about maven 
artifacts. i don't think it is easy to copy them all around - but who knows.… 

For nunit, ++ it shouldn't be a problem at all!

but I agree, that we should be able to have maven-artifacts (zip files, e.g.) 
as prereq for plugins. We could for example use the application-packaging (uses 
maven archiver).

Am 26.11.2013 um 08:48 schrieb [email protected]:

> Well currently there are different Library packages in different versions 
> (.Net 2.0, .Net 3.5, .Net X.X. NUnit, Lots more ...). All of These have their 
> own internal Directory structure and contain sets of libraries (DLLs). As far 
> as I undertstood NPanday it depends on These Libs being installed on the host 
> running a NPanday build and NPanday depends on These libraries as the dlls 
> are not copied to the maven repository, but instead the npanday-settings.xml 
> tells it in what Directory things are located.
> 
> My Suggestion was to "mavenize" the libraries (Making Maven artifacts out of 
> them and copying them to the local repo instead of maintaining the 
> npanday-settings.xml). This way you could deploy the artifacts to a Company 
> Maven repo and another user wanting to do a build wouldn't have to install 
> the libs, but just reference them in his build.
> 
> Is that a Little more clear that way?
> 
> Chris
> 
> ________________________________________
> Von: Lars Corneliussen [[email protected]]
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 26. November 2013 07:17
> An: [email protected]
> Betreff: Re: Building NPanday
> 
> do still not really understand…
> what libs are you talking about? nunit, ++? adana-repo? ...
> 
> Am 22.11.2013 um 11:42 schrieb [email protected]:
> 
>> Well I guess in the case of NPanday the local maven repostitory contains the 
>> NPanday Plugin(s) in the maven local repository and a "npanday-settings.xml" 
>> that is located somewhere. The Libs and Binaries used for compiling are 
>> located in the place where they were installed.
>> 
>> Assume an new colleague joins a Team already working on a Project. He has to 
>> install all sorts of libs first and hopefully get them in the right Version. 
>> In all other cases the build will Fail.
>> 
>> I was suggesting not to use a "npanday-settings.xml" at all, but to create a 
>> mavenizer that copies all the libs and binaries needed into a Maven form 
>> located in the maven local repository. This way These files can also be 
>> shared using a companies Maven repository and used in a Project by adding a 
>> simple Maven dependency.
>> 
>> Assumings this Approach, as soon as the new colleague joins the Team, the 
>> first build, would download all needed libs and binaries from the companies 
>> Maven repository and he could start working immediately.
>> 
>> When I first started to get the NPanday Unit Test Suite to execute, I needed 
>> quite some time to find out which Libraries were missing, After installing 
>> some of them I noticed that the new Versions were incompatable with the ones 
>> the Unit Test required and it was very hard to get Access to the old 
>> Versions. This was all making it harder for me to get started and I think it 
>> will also prevent others from doing the same.
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>> ________________________________________
>> Von: Lars Corneliussen [[email protected]]
>> Gesendet: Freitag, 22. November 2013 10:24
>> An: [email protected]
>> Betreff: Re: Building NPanday
>> 
>> so, instead of running the "mavenizer" (dotnet-plugins/settings-generator) 
>> through maven it would just run as a standalone program and update the 
>> npanday-settings.xml?
>> 
>> Am 21.11.2013 um 13:53 schrieb "[email protected]" 
>> <[email protected]>:
>> 
>>> Hi Lars,
>>> 
>>> And what about the idea of creating a ".Net mavenizer" that creates maven 
>>> artifacts for all needed components and libraries. Then you could rely on 
>>> this maven structure and new .Net Versions or lib Versions would simply be 
>>> a Thing of updating the Mavenizer.
>>> 
>>> This is the path we took for Flexmojos which relys on a Flex SDK, Air SDK 
>>> and Flashplayer libs. Ryling on libs in a certain structure on a System was 
>>> a far to fragile construct and keept on breaking things whenever a new SDK 
>>> changed the structure a Little.
>>> 
>>> Chris
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ________________________________________
>>> Von: Lars Corneliussen [[email protected]]
>>> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 21. November 2013 11:07
>>> An: [email protected]
>>> Betreff: Re: Building NPanday
>>> 
>>> Hi Christopher,
>>> 
>>> for Azure we read the SDK paths from the registry (configured in embedded 
>>> xml-files).
>>> Some of the paths detection still runs in dotnet-plugins; I think it should 
>>> be moved to Java code in order to have it accessible directly (live) from 
>>> all plugins. (Now we generate a file npanday-settings.xml that contains the 
>>> information about installed .NET SDKs) 
>>> (https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NPANDAY-505)
>>> 
>>> But it is not easy to get everything to run in all environments. The 
>>> nuget-importer also needs to have nuget on the PATH - which I don't like at 
>>> all! But there is no default place to get it from… Same with NUnit. It 
>>> would be great if we could bootstrap things through nuget… Maybe embedding 
>>> the nuget-commandline bottstrapper…
>>> 
>>> _
>>> Lars
>>> 
>>> Am 13.11.2013 um 20:42 schrieb "[email protected]" 
>>> <[email protected]>:
>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> Ok so I had another look at the bootstrap thing and it seems to work ... 
>>>> think I should start looking at the stuff in the root directory and not 
>>>> trusting the documentation on the website ... this sort of never works ;-)
>>>> So I don't want to change a running system ;-)
>>>> 
>>>> Now I'm trying to run the integration tests. Here I was having a little 
>>>> trouble:
>>>> - I installed Azure SDK 2.2 (Sort of couldn't install 1.7) and linked that 
>>>> directory to C:\Programms\Windows Azure SDK\v1.6 and 
>>>> C:\Programms\Microsoft SDKs\Windows Azure\.NET SDK\2012-06 and it seemed 
>>>> to have worked a little :-)
>>>> - I have Visual Studio 2013 installed and some tests are skipped because 
>>>> of me not having 2010 installed.
>>>> - Still there are 18 Test failing (It seems some tests are currently not 
>>>> running ... which ones are known not to run?)
>>>> 
>>>> One other thing I found a little annoying in the integration-tests suite, 
>>>> was that it pollutes my local maven repository. I am the lead developer of 
>>>> Flexmojos and here we use the maven-invoker-plugin to populate a test 
>>>> local repo located in the test-harness' target directory and invoke child 
>>>> maven builds, resulting in the normal local maven repo staying untouched. 
>>>> After a "mvn clean" all of this is cleared keeping the normal local repo 
>>>> nice and clean.
>>>> 
>>>> Yet another improvement proposal would be the way the resources in the MS 
>>>> SDKs are handled. I have seen a lot of systemPath stuff in the test poms. 
>>>> In Flex we too have different versions of SDKs that are installed to 
>>>> different places, which need to be accessed by the maven plugins. Instead 
>>>> of somehow accessing the files in their native locations, I created a 
>>>> "mavenizer" application, which creates Maven artifacts from the files in 
>>>> the SDKs and allows deploying these locally and in remote repositories. 
>>>> What do you think about creating a MS SDK mavenizer, which makes 
>>>> everything maveny and allows reducing the complexity of the plugins 
>>>> greatly?
>>>> 
>>>> Chris
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>>> Von: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 13. November 2013 16:15
>>>> An: [email protected]
>>>> Betreff: AW: Building NPanday
>>>> 
>>>> Sure,
>>>> 
>>>> I'll create an issue and attach a patch as soon as I'm home.
>>>> 
>>>> Chris
>>>> 
>>>> ________________________________________
>>>> Von: Brett Porter [[email protected]] im Auftrag von Brett Porter 
>>>> [[email protected]]
>>>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 13. November 2013 13:25
>>>> An: [email protected]
>>>> Betreff: Re: Building NPanday
>>>> 
>>>> On 13 Nov 2013, at 6:44 pm, [email protected] wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Brett,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Well in my checkout I added two profiles "default" and "minimal" each 
>>>>> containing only a "modules" section. Minimal only referencing the 
>>>>> compiler-maven-plugin and the default containing the normal 
>>>>> "modules"-section. I then disabled the Profile which automatically 
>>>>> disables itself as soon as the bootstrap property is set.
>>>>> 
>>>>> At least this way is buildable using
>>>>> 
>>>>> mvn clean install -Pminimal
>>>>> mvn clean install
>>>>> 
>>>>> without having to have any Prior Version available in any repo. I would 
>>>>> much favour this Approach and it would be much more like other maven 
>>>>> plugin Projects are Setup.
>>>> 
>>>> Yep, sounds good to me - would you like to contribute that as a patch in 
>>>> JIRA?
>>>> 
>>>> - Brett
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Brett Porter   @brettporter
>>>> http://brettporter.wordpress.com/
>>>> http://au.linkedin.com/in/brettporter

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