The New Yorker is definitely not known for sensational journalism. Did you read the article with the Obama cover? If so, you'd know why they did it. It wasn't sensational. It was motivated. There was a reason for it. People didn't like it. But that's very different than in this case, where there's no motivation or reason for them to make things up about Prince. I know what you're saying about stirring up controversy, though. But I think this really comes down to Prince's stupid rule about not allowing the media to use tape recorders.
Amil > > > On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 6:28 PM, Steve Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Whoa!! The New Yorker is not known for sensational journalism? What about >> that Barack Obama / Michelle Obama cover that depicted them as >> terrorist/radicals. I read a New York Times article about the owners Conde >> Nast, where it was stated that they like to stir up a controversy every now >> and then. Of course when Prince had a website, he had a golden opportunity >> to share his beliefs instantaneously. >> >> Peace,Love,Happiness and Godspeed!!  Amen!!Steve Marshall     >>    >>                          >>              >>                          >>      >> >> >> --- On Mon, 11/17/08, loven happiness <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > From: loven happiness <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > Subject: Re: NPNY: New Yorker (11/24/08): Soup With Prince >> > To: npny@lists.panix.com >> > Date: Monday, November 17, 2008, 2:57 PM >> > Totally agree.The New Yorker is not known for sensational >> > journalism. I also >> > agree that this is a sad development for those of us who >> > have followed him a >> > long time. >> > >> > The difference here Derek, in my opinion, is that in the >> > past we >> > haven't seen evidence of such distain. I understand >> > "growing" and gaining new >> > perspectives and new views but this holier than thou stance >> > is more than a bit >> > nauseating. And ironic, all things considered. >> > >> > ******************************************************** >> > You're so vain; I bet >> > you think this all is about you.... >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ________________________________ >> > From: Amil Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > To: npny@lists.panix.com >> > Sent: Monday, >> > November 17, 2008 2:08:55 PM >> > Subject: Re: NPNY: New Yorker (11/24/08): Soup >> > With Prince >> > >> > The printed quote about his opinion on gay marriage and >> > abortion >> > comes >> > off as a bit homophobic, don't you think? If he made >> > it, he probably >> > didn't realize that it sounded that way. If it's a >> > total misquote, >> > then it >> > really emphasizes how ridiculously naive his "no tape >> > recorders" rule is >> > (was?). >> > >> > However, I think as Christian as Prince is, and now with >> > his JW >> > beliefs, he must be against gay-marriage and abortion. >> > It's logical. >> > As a >> > Prince fan, you don't want to believe it. But I think >> > it's a safe >> > bet that he >> > did say something to that effect. The New Yorker is not >> > the NY Post. >> > >> > There >> > are posts debating this in reaction to the article on Dr >> > Funkenberry's site >> > and on the Org. If true, in my opinion, this would >> > be another sad evolution in >> > Prince history. >> > >> > Amil >> > >> > <Moderator: Prince's views on homosexually has been >> > a >> > rumbling in the Princeverse for many years now. This is >> > nothing new just the >> > first real public mention of it that I can recall. >> > -Derek> >> > >> > >> > On Mon, Nov 17, >> > 2008 at 1:51 PM, Sumeet Music <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > wrote: >> > > >> > > >> > > ---------- >> > Forwarded message ---------- >> > > From: ZA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > > Date: Mon, Nov >> > 17, 2008 at 11:14 AM >> > > Subject: NPNY: New Yorker (11/24/08): Soup With Prince >> > > To: npny@lists.panix.com >> > > >> > > >> > > [This article just started making its rounds >> > on the net... nothing really >> > > surprising for those who have been following >> > Prince's religious life over >> > > the past decade or so. Still, don't recall >> > reading such direct & candid >> > > statements before re: >> > politics/religion/Republicans/Democrats.--NPS] >> > > >> > > >> > http://www.newyorker.com/talk/2008/11/24/081124ta_talk_hoffman >> > > >> > > Soup With >> > Prince >> > > by Claire Hoffman November 24, 2008 >> > > New Yorker >> > > >> > > The >> > thirty-thousand-square-foot Italianate villa, built this >> > century by >> > > Vanna >> > White's ex-husband, looks like many of the other houses >> > in Beverly >> > > Park, a >> > gated community in L.A., except for the bright-purple >> > carpet that >> > > spills >> > down the front steps to announce its new tenant: Prince. >> > One >> > > afternoon just >> > before the election, Prince invited a visitor over. Inside, >> > > the place was >> > done up in a generic Mediterranean style, although there >> > were >> > > personal >> > flourishes here and >> > thereÃÆ'¢â‚¬â€ >> > a Lucite grand piano with a >> > > >> > gold-colored >> > > "Artist Formerly Known as Prince" symbol >> > suspended over it, >> > purple paisley >> > > pillows on a couch. Candles scented the air, and New >> > Age >> > music played in the >> > > living room, where a TV screen showed images of >> > bearded >> > men playing flutes. >> > > Prince padded into the kitchen, a small fifty-year-old >> > man in yoga pants and >> > > a big sweater, wearing platform flip-flops over white >> > socks, like a geisha. >> > > >> > > "Would you like something to eat?" he asked, >> > sidling >> > up to the counter. >> > > Prince's voice was surprisingly deep, like that of >> > a much >> > larger man. He >> > > picked up a copy of "21 Nights," a glossy >> > volume of >> > photographs that he had >> > > just released. It is his first published book, a >> > collection of highly >> > > stylized photographs of him taken during a series of >> > gigs in London last >> > > year. "I'm really proud of this," he >> > said. Short >> > original poems and a CD >> > > accompany the photographs. (Sample verse: "Who >> > eye >> > really am only time will >> > > tell/ 2 the almighty life 4ce that grows stronger >> > with every chorus/ Yes >> > > give praise, lest ye b among . . . the guilty >> > ones.") >> > > >> > > Limping slightly, Prince set off on a walk around his >> > new bachelor pad. >> > > >> > Glass doors opened onto acres of back yard, and a hot tub >> > bubbled in the >> > > >> > sunlight. "I have a lot of parties," he >> > explained. In the living room, he'd >> > > >> > installed purple thrones on either side of a fireplace, >> > and, nearby, along a >> > > >> > hallway, he had hung photographs of himself, in a Moroccan >> > villa, in various >> > > >> > states of undress. At the end of the hall, a gauzy curtain >> > fluttered in a >> > > >> > doorway. "My room," he said. "It's >> > private." >> > > >> > > Prince has lived in Los >> > Angeles since last spring, after spending years in >> > > Minneapolis, holding >> > court in a complex called Paisley Park, where he made >> > > thousands of songs, >> > far away from the big labels. Seven years ago, he became >> > > a Jehovah's >> > Witness. He said that he had moved to L.A. so that he could >> > > understand the >> > hearts and minds of the music moguls. "I wanted to be >> > around >> > > people, >> > connected to people, for work," he said. "You >> > know, it's all about >> > > religion. >> > That's what unites people here. They all have the same >> > religion, >> > > so I wanted >> > to sit down with them, to understand the way they see >> > things, >> > > how they read >> > Scripture." >> > > >> > > Prince had his change of faith, he said, after a >> > two-year-long >> > debate with a >> > > musician friend, Larry Graham. "I don't see >> > it really as a >> > conversion," he >> > > said. "More, you know, it's a realization. >> > It's like >> > Morpheus and Neo in >> > > 'The Matrix.' " He attends meetings at a >> > local Kingdom >> > Hall, and, like his >> > > fellow-witnesses, he leaves his gated community from >> > time to time to knock >> > > on doors and proselytize. "Sometimes people act >> > surprised, but mostly >> > > they're really cool about it," he said. >> > > >> > > Recently, >> > Prince hosted an executive who works for Philip Anschutz, >> > the >> > > Christian >> > businessman whose company owns the Staples Center. "We >> > started >> > > talking red >> > and blue," Prince said. "People with >> > moneyÃÆ'¢â‚¬â€ >> > money like >> > > >> > thatÃÆ'¢â‚¬â€ >> > are >> > > not affected by the stock market, and they're not >> > freaking out over >> > > anything. They're just watching. So here's how >> > it is: >> > you've got the >> > > Republicans, and basically they want to live according >> > to >> > this." He pointed >> > > to a Bible. "But there's the problem of >> > interpretation, >> > and you've got some >> > > churches, some people, basically doing things and >> > saying >> > it comes from here, >> > > but it doesn't. And then on the opposite end of >> > the >> > spectrum you've got >> > > blue, you've got the Democrats, and they're, >> > like, 'You >> > can do whatever you >> > > want.' Gay marriage, whatever. But neither of them >> > is >> > right." >> > > >> > > When asked about his perspective on social >> > issuesÃÆ'¢â‚¬â€ >> > gay marriage, >> > > abortionÃÆ'¢â‚¬â€ >> > > Prince >> > tapped his Bible and said, >> > "God came to earth and saw >> > > people >> > > sticking it wherever and doing it with >> > whatever, and he just cleared it all >> > > out. He was, like, 'Enough.' " >> > > >> > > >> > Later, in the dining room, eating a bowl of carrot soup, he >> > talked about an >> > > >> > encounter that he described as a "teaching >> > moment." "There was this woman. >> > > >> > She used to come to Paisley Park and just sit outside on >> > the swings," he >> > > >> > said. "So I went out there one day and I was, like, >> > 'Hey, all my friends in >> > > >> > there say you're a stalker. And that I should call the >> > police. But I don't >> > > >> > want to do that, so why don't you tell me what you want >> > to happen. Why are >> > > >> > you here? How do you want this to end?' And she >> > didn't really have an answer >> > > >> > for that. In the end, all she wanted was to be seen, for me >> > to look at her. >> > > >> > And she left and didn't come back." >> > ÃÆ'¢â„¢Â¦ >> > > >> > > <Moderator: >> > Interesting story at the end... -Derek> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- NewPowerNewYork Mailing List website: Www.NPNY.Org ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Unsubscribe? Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], in body place npny ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Questions/Help?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
