Hi Bob, thanks for your help on this. I will follow up on the tutorial
and let you know how it goes.
Cheers
Keith
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Bob Katayama" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Here is the link to the GPS tutorial I should have provided in the first
> reply 
> 
>  
> 
> http://www.geoframeworks.com/Articles/WritingApps2_1.aspx
> 
>  
> 
> Sorry for the multiple emails.
> 
> Bob
> 
>  
> 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Bob Katayama
> Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 10:52 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [nsbasic-ce] serial comms in NSBasic to capture GPS
NMEA data
> stream
> 
>  
> 
> Sorry wrong link earlier.
> 
> http://handheld.softpedia.com/get/GPS/GPS-Test-34335.shtml
> 
>  
> 
> Bob
> 
>  
> 
> From: Bob Katayama [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 10:51 AM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: [nsbasic-ce] serial comms in NSBasic to capture GPS
NMEA data
> stream
> 
>  
> 
> Hi Keith:
> 
>  
> 
> After a close look at your code, I do not see anything that could be
related
> to the basic code you have. The problem could be more of an issue
with the
> built in GPS unit.  GPS do require a minimum of 3 satellite
connections to
> establish a reading, Depending on the GPS hardware you can have even 12
> connections. If you are in a location where the connection to the same
> satellites and the number of satellites are always changing this
will affect
> the data reception time.  Here is a free program you can run to
check signal
> strengths if you do not have one already.
> 
>  
> 
> http://www.webhostingpad.com/webdesign.html
> 
>  
> 
> What I would also suggest is looking at this tutorial on writing car
> navigation software using vb.net. It talks about accuracy and is in
depth.
> You might be able to extract a tidbit or two to improve the accuracy
of the
> data received by using the satellites built in atomic clock.
> 
>  
> 
> Hope this helps a little.
> 
>  
> 
> Bob
> 
>  
> 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of William Keith Saalfeld
> Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 12:01 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [nsbasic-ce] serial comms in NSBasic to capture GPS
NMEA data
> stream
> 
>  
> 
> Hi Bob,
>  
> Thanks for your prompt response.
>  
> The GPS unit in the PDA I am using uses 9600 baud. I have reasonable
> communication between my program and the GPS device using following
code to
> turn on GPS Comm Port
>  
> ' Turn on GPS input of Latitude and Longitude via NMEA0183 sentence
> ' through Comm Port 1.
> ' Set To True if using GPS or False to use PC internal clock to match
> ' separate GPS log of survey.
> ' If using PC internal clock, time and date must be set to UTC.
> GPSOn = "True"
> If GPSOn = "True" Then
> AddObject "Comm","GPS",0,0,0,0
> ' Settings for Com port 1, open Com port 1 for input.
> GPS.CommPort = 1
> GPS.Settings = "9600, N, 8, 1"
> GPS.InputLen = 0
> GPS.PortOpen = 1
> End If
>  
> and the following code to capture the GPS NMEA sentence that I am
interested
> in, the $GPGGA sentence
> 
> ' Sub GPS - subroutine GPSpos to get latitude and longitude
> ' from GPS.
> Sub GPSpos
> If GPSOn = "True" Then
> NMEAheader = ""
> NMEAstring = ""
> While NMEAheader <> "$GPGGA"
> NMEAheader = ""
> NMEAstring = ""
> NMEAstring = NMEAstring + GPS.Input
> NMEAheader = Left(NMEAstring, 6)
> If NMEAheader = "$GPGGA" Then
> If Len(NMEAstring) < 44 Then
> NMEAheader = ""
> Else
> If Mid(NMEAstring, 44, 1) <> "1" Then
> NMEAheader = ""
> End If
> End If
> End If
> WEnd
> GPSlat = CSng(Mid(NMEAstring, 19, 2)) + CSng(Mid(NMEAstring, 21, 7))
/ 60
> GPSlong = CSng(Mid(NMEAstring, 31, 3)) + CSng(Mid(NMEAstring, 34,
7)) / 60
> HemNS = Mid(NMEAstring, 29, 1)
> HemEW = Mid(NMEAstring, 42, 1)
> If HemNS = "S" Then
> GPSlat = GPSlat * -1
> End If
> If HemEW = "W" Then
> GPSlong = GPSlong * -1
> End If
> ElseIf GPSOn = "False" Then
> ' Set latitude and longitude of sighting to 0 when not using GPS.
> GPSlat = 0
> GPSlong = 0
> End If
> End Sub
> 
>  
> 
> My main problem is that occasionally there can be a considerable
delay (up
> to 5 secs in worst case) between my initiating data entry and the
capture of
> the lat long. On the crocodile surveys this can take a sighting from one
> side of the river to the other or in the case of aerial surveys
which I also
> have written data logging programs for up to 300 m from the actual
position.
> I have looked at a lot of GPS type comms code that is out there in the
> freeware/GNU licence area and most seems similar to what I have
written. I
> just cannot help feeling that there has to be a tighter set of code
to do
> this job. At 9600 baud I should be getting up to 2 $GPGGA sentences per
> second.
> 
>  
> 
> I am keen to tighten this code up but need direction to some good serial
> comms references that aren't to technical (written for graduate
> programmers).
> 
>  
> 
> Ta
> 
> Keith
> 
>  
> 
> W Keith Saalfeld
> 
> WKS Wildlife Management Consulting
> 
> 
> PO Box 8261
> 
> Alice Springs NT 08701
> Australia 
> 
> Mob: 0428 848 912
> Email1: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> 
>  
> 
>   _____  
> 
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 23:19:26 -0400
> Subject: RE: [nsbasic-ce] serial comms in NSBasic to capture GPS
NMEA data
> stream
> 
> Hi:
> 
>  
> 
> First, I would like to say I really admire you for developing a very
> specialized application without being a career software developer. The
> initial thought I have before even looking at your code is that
different
> GPS devices communicate at different baud rates depending on the age and
> type of GPS that is actually utilized. Also the baud rate you use
has to be
> in the fixed supported rates.
> 
> (1200, 2400, 4800, 9600, 19200, 28800, 38400, 57600, 76800 and
115200 etc..
> )
> 
> Does one of the rates above match the rate used in your program and
also is
> the rate you have coded for the maximum rate that is directly
supported by
> the gps in your pda?
> 
>  
> 
> Example:
> 
> COM Port: COM2
> 
> Baud Rate: 4800
> 
> Data Bits: 8
> 
> Parity: No Parity
> 
> Stop Bits: 2
> 
>  
> 
> Bob
> 
>  
> 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of
> wksaalfeld
> 
> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 10:17 PM
> 
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Subject: [nsbasic-ce] serial comms in NSBasic to capture GPS NMEA data
> stream
> 
>  
> 
> Hi All,
> 
>  
> 
> I am a Wildlife Officer with the Parks and Wildlife Service NT 
> 
> Australia. I have a program that I have written for data logging 
> 
> sightings taken on our annual spotlight surveys of saltwater 
> 
> crocodile populations in the Northern Territory.
> 
>  
> 
> NSBasic does an excellent job, particularly due to the speed at which 
> 
> sightings can be entered. The sightings are recorded with spatial 
> 
> information which I get from the PDA's inbuilt GPS via the GPS 
> 
> NMEA0183 data stream.
> 
>  
> 
> I have a program that works in terms of reading the NMEA data stream 
> 
> but the code is not well written, at least it seems so to me, and it 
> 
> can often be 1 or 2 seconds before the program gets the lat/long 
> 
> position, rarely more.
> 
>  
> 
> I would very much like to tighten up the subroutine in my program 
> 
> that gets the GPS data and if someone can supply me with a good 
> 
> reference, either web site or to a book, on serial comms that has 
> 
> been written for a non-programmer it would be appreciated. I have 
> 
> done a number of Google searches and looked at GPS code in the files 
> 
> link on this forum and the code I have written appears very similar.
> 
>  
> 
> I have posted a copy of the program (it is very simple) in the files 
> 
> link (CrocSurv_05.nsb). One of the main requirements of the spotlight 
> 
> surveys is the capacity to enter sightings with as little as 2-3 
> 
> seconds between records and with GPS position logged at commencement 
> 
> of data entry, not end. We do the surveys at night in small boats 4-5 
> 
> m, moving at about 15-20 kph so there is not much time to identify 
> 
> and record each animal. For each animal we record species (there are 
> 
> only 2 and mostly it is Crocodyus porosus), position in river, and 
> 
> size.
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>   _____
>



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