Hi Sam.

The "tap drag" or "double tap" birl works but there is not enough room to do 
the "figure 7" birl. Well actually I can do the "figure 7" too but I have a 
deformed hand from an accident a few years ago, which allows me to do that.

I totally agree with you on the uniqueness of the NSP sound and I am being 
very particular about getting the traditional style basics down and sticking 
to them. The birl just sort of slipped out and I liked it. It's not actually 
a birl in the real sense because of the closed chanter. The popping effect 
is similar though. I thought I might try to record it and post a link to the 
MP3 file.. but I'm sure everyone knows what I'm on about anyway.


Cheers


Bill


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sam Edwards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Bill Carr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu>
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 5:56 PM
Subject: [NSP] Re: NSP Birl?


> Hi Bill,
>
> How you can get a birl out within the tight finger hole spacing of the G
> chanter is remarkable, as I find the F chanter which is longer than the G,
> too cramped to execute the birl or any of the other complex ornaments that 
> I
> love to execute on my Scottish pipes. It is enough for me to make sure I
> have only one finger or key raised at a time in keeping with the closed
> chanter playing style, and to appreciate the wonderful percussive popping
> effects that distinguishes NSP chanter from the Scottish ones.
>
> Cheers,
> Sam
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Carr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 10:59 AM
> To: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu
> Subject: [NSP] NSP Birl?
>
>
> From Bill Carr
> Mysen - Norway
>
>
> My first post here in a long time... I asked this on the Dunsire forums 
> but
> thought maybe I would get a broader response here.
>
>
> I am fairly new to the NSP but have been a very active ghb player for 13
> years. I am currently playing a G set and working through John Liestmans
> book. The tune I am working on now is Lambs Skinnet. When I came to the 
> long
> G notes at the end of the second part I automatically did a birl (from
> highland technique). It felt natural to put one in there and I think it
> sounded pretty neat. I was just wondering.
>
> 1 - Do any of you NSP'ers who also play Scottish pipes use the Birl on the
> NSP?
>
> 2 - If you did something unorthodox like that in highland piping circles 
> you
> would probably get some crass comments from the conservative corner
> (including myself). Is it more accepted to do stuff like that in
> Northumbrian piping?
>
> Cheers
>
>
>
> Bill Carr
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