Dear Colin,

Now you have set me off measuring my chanters! My F and G chanters both have a bore of 4.4mm while my D chanter checks in at 4.5mm. The pitch is therefore governed by the length (how's that for showing my grandmother how to suck eggs).

I have F and F# chanters from a different maker (don't ask me why I wanted an F# chanter) and they check in at 4.3mm and 4.85mm respectively. The F# chanter is virtually the same length as the F chanter, so this maker has simply drilled out the bore to lift the pitch (it is also very loud). Hence my thought that an F chanter designed for a beginner could have the hole spacings widened to be more comfortable if the bore were narrowed. The lack of volume could possibly be made up for by drilling larger tone holes? Add the idea of drilling the holes on the slant into the mix and you have the ingredients for a pipemaker's nightmare :-))

All this from someone who has yet to make his first chanter.

Cheers,

Richard


Dear Richard,
Sound reasoning re the bores but at 4mm bore (5/32") it could be a little quiet altho I have found it sound the same tone and volume as the regular 4.4mm (11/64"). The sharpening effect does work at 3,8mm (3/16") but can sound a little too loud altho once again I have found it OK as my first chanter that I got from Forster Charlton was that bore and it never bothered me. I did try to widen the hole spacing for the G chanter some years ago now by boring out the bore to 3/16" and drilling to F# spacings which was in-between the F and G spacings. I drilled two chanters and found that one was perfect in playing in G but the other would not move a fraction above the F#. I think that John Liiestman had the same problem.?I did not pursue that any further as I could not afford to make chanters that would not reliably play in the key I wanted and therefore waste my time. Despite what I said last time about drilling the finger holes at an angle to widen the spacing I have not consistently tried it although I know it works.
Colin


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From: Richard Shuttleworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 22:09
Subject: Re: [NSP] Re: Finger spacing


Dear Colin and everyone,?
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This is a quest for knowledge and not a suggestion, but would it be possible to lower the pitch of a chanter by narrowing the bore and, conversly, raise the pitch by widening the bore? If so, would it be possible to make a longer F chanter (with correspondingly wider finger positions) by widening the bore (but countering this by lengthening the chanter to maintain the pitch??
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I may have got the whole thing backwards but Helen's question has set me thinking along these lines.?
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Cheers,?
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Richard?
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Dear Helen,?
I actually made a D set for someone with larger fingers which was > comfortable for him and didn't worry him as he was not intending to play > with other F pipers and to be realistic might be the only way to fix him > up with a playing set he can manage.? However if the finger holes are drilled at 45 degrees downward from the > top and upward from the bottom of the chanter he may be able to spread the > holes to make it possible for him to play in F.? The holes on a bassoon are drilled this way to make it possible to cover > the holes but in the other way,i.e. upwards for the top holes and > downwards for the bottom holes.?
Cheers,?
Colin?
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From: Helen Capes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>?
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Sent: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 8:29?
Subject: [NSP] Finger spacing?
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Ok this is a bit technical, for those who understand the link between bore > width and finger spacing.?? I have been approached by a man who would like to learn to play the NSP > but he really cannot squash his fingers onto an F chanter.?? One solution would be a D chanter, but that doesn't give him the future of > social playing with other pipers that he was looking for.?? He has made some very nice practice chanters for the GHP and wondered if > anyone could supply some ideas on how to make a keyless F chanter for the > NSP with wider fingers spacing.??
Helen ??
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