Unless we're talking about a different version from the one that
   circulated a day or so ago,
   Yes I have seen your bonny lad,
   'Twas on the sea I spied him.
   His grave is green but not wi' grass
   And you'll never lie beside him.
   means that he's drowned.
   Dru

     > Message Received: Oct 31 2008, 02:53 PM
     > From: "Gibbons, John"
     > To: "the Red Goblin" , "nsp"
     > Cc:
     > Subject: [NSP] Re: "Maa Bonny Lad"
     >
     >
     > Of course the 'ower long' in the printed text, probably sounded
     'ower
     > lang',
     > so we don't fully lose the internal rhyme.
     >
     > I read this song as referring to a keelman being nabbed by a press
     gang
     > when he was on shore.
     >
     > If more verses had survived, the reading might be clearer.
     >
     > John
     >
     >
     >
     > -----Original Message-----
     > From: the Red Goblin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
     > Sent: 31 October 2008 14:08
     > To: nsp
     > Subject: [NSP] Re: "Maa Bonny Lad"
     >
     > > -----Original Message-----
     > > From: Matt Seattle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
     > > Sent: 31 October 2008 10:54
     > 8< snip
     > > My question is, is there a meaning apart from the obvious in the
     > > notion of the Keelman going "oe'r land" in this song and in the
     title
     > > of the pipe tune?
     >
     > Well, I can brainstorm 3 possibilities to get the ball rolling:
     > A: Walking from home to join a keel crew
     > B: Gone ashore to plant a mooring post
     > C: Returning home after death
     >
     > I'm assuming A was the obvious one.
     >
     > In support of B is the following line (in your ref. "He's gyen to
     moor
     > the
     > keel, O!"). Or, more strongly, in 'Bonnie Keel Laddie'* ("He's
     geane
     > ower
     > land, wiv a stick in his hand, T' help to moor the keel, o!"). But
     > contrariwise:
     > 1: It implies the questioner is already on board
     > 2: The question implies a longer time-span than such a task
     requires
     >
     > Finally, considering the 2nd verse's gloomy answer, C may even be
     a
     > reference to (primarily Celtic) beliefs about:
     > 1: Souls being unable to cross water
     > 2: The homeward routes taken by the souls of deceased warriors
     > according to whether they died bravely or ingloriously
     > (the oft-misinterpreted heavenly 'high road' vs. underground
     > 'low road' theme as embodied by the 'Loch Lomond' song)
     > Too fanciful ? Yeah, probably ! R&DFC
     >
     > Cheers,
     > Steve Collins
     >
     > * http://www.mudcat.org/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=9172
     >
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