Hi,
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm sure simply recording it does confer
copyright, or at least has in the past, justly or not.
When various people collected folk singers earlier in the C20th, I
believe it's still an issue which rankles that by doing so they did
exactly that.
I was told that there's one huge collection of traditional material
which apparently at least recently had exactly this issue, & probably
still does; sorry, I can't remember for sure which so won't name any.
Old ladies & gents innocently sang their songs into the nice gentleman's
microphone, only to find that he now owned their songs.
I think Barry, that it goes on for 75 yrs after the owner's death -
certainly does in the case of composers.
The EFDSS library would supply more details.
Best wishes,
Richard.
Dru Brooke-Taylor wrote:
There's a further topic for discussion. What does anyone claim "Trad
C/C" means? I suspect there are people on this list who will disagree
with me, but I think the statement 'Trad C/C' is usually a nonsense
statement. It's either one or the other. It can't be both. Copyright
has to belong to someone.
By calling something 'trad', in effect, a person is saying they do not
believe there is anyone who has copyright in it. They aren't expecting
to pay royalties for using it, or that someone will leap out of the
woodwork who can claim them. A different copyright exists in the
actual recording, but you do not give yourself copyright in a piece of
music that comes from somewhere else just by finding it on a grubby
piece of lined paper, hearing it in a session or playing it. You can
only get such a copyright by tracing who wrote it, finding them or
their executors, being able to show that their copyright has not
expired and persuading them to sell it to you.
As for Jimmy Allen, one cannot prove that it was ancient from a
negative, but it does look as though there was no one around in the
1960s or 1970s who claimed that they or their ancestor wrote it. If
this reasoning were valid, which it isn't, it would be persuasive that
if anyone once wrote it, they died before about 1900. It doesn't,
though, unfortunately, provide any direct link to someone who died in
1810.
Dru
On 15 Jan 2009, at 20:18, Ian Lawther wrote:
Copyright control(led)? Often abbreviated to "Cop. Con"
Ian
malcra...@aol.com wrote:
On the vinyl itself it is not directly attributed, other than:
{All other material Trad C/C)
?
Not sure what C/C means
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