Dear John,
When I was saying that I thought the tunes in the 'First 30 Tunes' might be better played on some other instrument than the small pipes to give an idea of how the tune went it was to avoid the copying of pehaps bad playing technique from pipers who had contributed tracks for the CD. I had no experience of using ABC copies of the tunes to generate audio copies but it seems to be a relatively straightforward way of getting the printed tunes out there to be heard. At the moment the NPS is only interested in producing a CD to accompany the '30 tunes' book but as we have most of the other tunes that are in our publications in ABC form it could be applied to all those tunes that beginners have difficulty in lifting off the page.
As you say the main problem is in finding someone to do the job.
Colin R

-----Original Message-----
From: Gibbons, John <>
To: 'colin' <>; <>
Sent: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 16:41
Subject: [NSP] Re: First 30 tunes

  An abc pipers' tunebook should ideally -

    * Not be a copy of a printed source. It might affect its sales. Let
      alone copyright questions.
    * So should be mostly traditional unpublished material.
    * It could contain new tunes too, if submitted by the composer -
      copyright again.
* It should be communally authored - wait for a single author and it
      will take a long time, and will mirror his taste; be it excellent
or otherwise, someone will disagree! It is a view of the tradition
      that we are after, not just Joe Bloggs' bit of it.
    * Abc's could be submitted to the nsp mailing list, and someone
      web-literate could put it online.
    * So we need a willing able volunteer.
    * Here the plan falls to the ground.....


  -----Original Message-----

  [[1]] On Behalf
  Of colin

  Sent: 10 March 2009 16:23


  Subject: [NSP] Re: [NSP]Re: irst 30 tunes

  I'm glad you wrote this.

I suggested something similar but my post never appeared (that happens

  often and yes, I did send it to the list, not the person who posted

  As I said there, I've been trying to do something similar with a book

  hurdy gurdy tunes but some other player beat me to it by playing all

  tunes on the piano and making it available as an mp3.

  The cries of "ah, that's how that bit goes" continue to echo.

  Colin Hill

  ----- Original Message -----

  From: "Mike and Enid Walton" <>

  To: <>

  Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 6:53 AM

  Subject: [NSP] [NSP]Re: irst 30 tunes


  >   If tunes (the "first 30" in the current context, but it holds for

  >   the NPS tunes) were posted in "abc" format on the NPS website, it

> enable people with the necessary programs to print them in whatever

  >   format they wished, hear them as midis, transpose them etc.  It

  >   of course, reduce the sales of NPS books.




  >   I thought about this when we were playing tunes on F chanters at

> Halsway with other musicians. The music books proferred by pipers

  >   of course no good to the other musicians unless they were really

  >   at transposing on the hoof.




  >   Mike Walton


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