Well said "colin" (Hill, of course)
I have been reading this list (both lists) over the past month with a growing sense of detatchment and loss of interest. I wonder if I can really be bothered to open any new message, and very likely read yet more griping and point-scoring, or whether just to hit the delete button, and send NPS and NSP alike to join all the other spam. We have had the endless "what is proper piping?" debate yet again (have the Taliban got an internet discussion list about true Islam, I wonder? If so it must be very similar), continuing point-scoring about the presidency, about the society "rules" or lack of them, pipe-makers and pipe-making books and what the society has/hasn't/should/shouldn't have done about them, and now this latest extraordinary outburst. The suggested distinction between NPS discussion and NSP (Dartmouth) list isn't really being observed, often because the subject matter applies to both. Personally, I don't bother to look closely at the acronym to see what list a posting is meant for, I still read them all - and I'm sure most of us who have subscribed to both do the same. I used to follow the discussions with interest, and often contribute to them, but the level of debate recently (with a few honourable exceptions) has sunk so low I'm tempted to unsubscribe from both lists. Letting my Society subsciption lapse sometimes seems like a good idea too. Please can we have a Summer recess, or a moratorium or something, and all come back refreshed and nicer people, ready to discuss piping and its music tolerantly and positively? Can we also drop the (failed?) experiment of the NPS discussion list. Some of us ordinary members really don't care any more about the Society's internal battles. Just fight it out among yourselves and let us know the result by old-fashioned snail-mail newsletter when all the blood has been cleaned up.
Philip

----- Original Message ----- From: "colin" <cwh...@santa-fe.freeserve.co.uk>
To: <nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 2:38 PM
Subject: [NSP] Re: Northumbria Pipe Course 11-16 October - Places available


I'm, glad someone else aid it first.
I wasn't aware that this particular list was only for NPS events and news. I
thought it was a general list for anyone interested in any aspect of the
pipes.
So, if a course is being run and ISN'T held by the NPS we can't read it/post
it etc?
This puerile twaddle has got to stop before we all leave the list and, the
way it's going, the Society too.
Please put personal feeling aside and talk pipes and piping.
If non-society events can't be discussed, what's the point of us
non-Northeasteners bothering to belong to the list.
I certainly can't get to Newcastle for an event (too far, too expensive, too
ill to travel that distance).
OK, if them's the rules........................
How about starting a NEW list where we can discuss ANYTHING to do with
piping then?
I would agree, however, that this topic would not be permitted in the
discussion list (which is for members only).
I fail to see how a general, public list (not linked to the NPS as such) can
disallow private courses, tutoring, pipe sales etc.
I know that certain society members consider themselves a bit of a clique.
Most of us don't. We love the pipes (whether we play or not) and enjoy
talking about them.
I would be most interested to read about, say, KT doing a concert here.
Apoplectic fits from many members I suppose.
Very sad. This list used to be very open (and I've been here for a long time
as well) and honest. Now it's a point-scoring forum.
I no longer look forward to reading the mails as I know what's coming.
Sorry but I'm really getting fed up with reading the snide remarks these
days (plus most is lost on me as I don't know the people concerned).
Bah, Humbug...............

Colin Hill



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