Dear Colin,
There is no difference between a course run by an individual as a private event and one run for the Society by the same individual. The point I am trying to make is that the individual concerned would have been doing more for piping in general by running it as a Society event.There was never going to be any money made out of running the event but there would have been the advantage of having free publicity and also helpn from the Committe and and underwriting of any losses. As I have said the week-long course was in the planning stage by the Society when it was taken over by Susan when she made the 'Great Escape North'. There was no discussion,it was a 'fait accompli'. Do you wonder why I am bringing to everyone's attention?
CR


-----Original Message-----
From: colin <cwh...@santa-fe.freeserve.co.uk>
To: neiltaver...@btinternet.com; rosspi...@aol.com
CC: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 20:39
Subject: [NSP] Re: Northumbria Pipe Course 11-16 October - Places available


Can someone please enlighten me on something as I am obviously too old and doddering to understand.  Is this particular list an "open" list for matters pertaining to piping in general or only as it concerns the Society?  For the life of me, I can't see the problem with self-advertising provided that it is to do with piping.  Presumably, If I had heard of a piping course and then written a post "h ey pipers, there's a course being held at...................". That would be piping news surely and quite acceptable?  Please explain the difference to me between a course held by the Society and one held by an individual as far as this (open) list is concerned (if it is open).  Many people on this list are not members of the Society (hence the opening of the "dirty laundry" alternative list).  Please inform us as to whether this list is to discuss piping in all it's aspects or only those aspects that the Society have a hand in. 
I think we need this clarification. 
If it is, indeed, NOT an open list but one being run for and on behalf of the Society, I think that needs pointing out notwithstanding the fact that the Society "runs" it and benefits from it (by spreading the word that it exists).  If it IS a Society bases list only, maybe a change of name should be considered.  Again, if it's an open list, maybe we shouldn't have details of the Society's contributions either (to make it fair). 
You can't have it both ways. 
An open list or a NPS list? 
That would, I think, help many of us to understand what is acceptable and what is not. 
If it IS a specific NPS list, maybe it should be restricted to members. 
Maybe a truly open list (such as the English Bagpipes list on Yahoo) should be started as an alternative to those who wish to discuss ALL aspect s of piping and where the news of a course on piping would be accepted as news regardless of who was running it? 
 
Colin Hill 
(Life Member of NPS since around 1972/3) 
----- Original Message ----- From: <rosspi...@aol.com> 
To: <neiltaver...@btinternet.com> 
Cc: <nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu> 
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 4:53 PM 
Subject: [NSP] Re: Northumbria Pipe Course 11-16 October - Places available 
 
 
No problem as you are doing it as a group activity and there is no 
conflict with the NPS who I am sure welcomes it. 
CR 
 
-----Original Message----- 
From: Neil Tavernor <neiltaver...@btinternet.com> 
To: n...@cs.dartmouth.edu 
Sent: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 13:09 
Subject: [NSP] Re: Northumbria Pipe Course 11-16 October - Places 
available 
 
And if (nsp dartmouth) is only for material sanctioned by the NPS, why 
did we need (NPS discussion). 
 
And can I advertise the Manchester group Pipers' day (3rd October) run 
and risk taken by individuals (no financial support from the NPS) on 
the (NPS discusion) list. Well I'm going to anyway. 
 
Neil 
 
----- Original Message ----- From: "Francis Wood" 
<oatenp...@googlemail.com> 
To: "Dartmouth NPS" <nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu> 
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 12:56 PM 
Subject: [NSP] Re: Northumbria Pipe Course 11-16 October - Places 
available 
 
Oh, for goodness'
sake! 
 
Francis 
 
On 12 Aug 2009, at 12:41, rosspi...@aol.com wrote: 
 
 
I wonder if this advert for a privately run course is allowed on this 
list. This is a course that is not run by the NPS but for the benefit 
of > the person who is running it who although taking the risk and time 
to > organise it is also taking any profit that may arise. 
CR 
 
-----Original Message----- > From: suzefisher 
@aol.com 
To: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:24 Subject: [NSP] Northumbria Pipe Course 11-16 October - Places 
available 
 
 
There are still a few places left on this course, if anyone is 
interested > in attending or would like some more information please 
contact me > offlist. 
Thanks Susan. 
2nd NORTHUMBRIA PIPING WEEK 
Sunday 11th – Friday 16th October 2009 
A residential piping course suitable for all playing levels (except > 
absolute beginners) based in a licensed hotel in Whitley Bay. 
 
Tutors for the week include Andy May, Chris Ormston, Chris Evans.
Plus > other guest tutors and performers. 
Limited accommodation for non-playing partners. Some non-residential playing places will be available.  Costs: Tuition (over 5 days), events, outings etc. Includes lunch,
tea and > coffee – £230 per player (individual lessons may be a
vailable at extra > cost) 
Accommodation – B&B £140 - £245 for 7 nights (depending on level of >
facilities chosen) 
 
Evening meals at participants’ expense 
Part-week bookings will be considered. 
For further details and an application form contact: Susan Craven 166 Plessey Road, BLYTH, NE2land NE24 3JA 07764 483595 suzefis...@aol.com 
 
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