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     Dick Hensold                    St. Paul, MN
     651/646-6581

            Traditional Folk Music, Early Music, and Cambodian Music

                    Northumbrian smallpipes, recorder,

              Medieval greatpipes,Swedish sackpipa, & beyaw.

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   On Aug 26, 2009, at 7:34 AM, Philip Gruar wrote:

   Dick wrote

      My D set has a high C, and if pipemakers are interested in my
     opinion,

      I don't think D sets should be made without a high C.  It's just
     too

      useful, and allows much more concert pitch playing.

   Probably too obvious to mention, but I guess we are to assume this
   means "virtual high C", which on a D set actually sounds concert-pitch
   G.

   Right, and I'll continue to use "G system" terms.

   As I pipe-maker, I take the advice on board. It seems very sensible,
   there is easily room for it on a D chanter, and I'll always be
   interested in Dick's opinion (flattery is never out of place, and this
   is sincere anyway :-))
   Which side is the key on, Dick? and where should the key go if all D
   chanters are to have a high C as standard?

   The tricky thing about a high C is accessing it as easily from high A
   as from high B.  If you make the high C the top-left-back key, you can
   play it with either the left little finger or the right thumb, or if
   necessary, both in sequence.  So both B-C-B and A-C-A sequences are not
   too difficult. B-C-A and A-C-B sequences are still hard, but this can
   be helped by bending the keys in just the right way. That being said,
   the high C is still the trickiest key on the set to deal with-- but so
   useful it's worth it.
   My D set has only 4 top keys, (forgoing the  F# which I rarely miss
   since I play more often in concert pitch than "G system") the high
   B-flat being the top-back-right key. This puts the B and Bb holes very
   close together, but maybe not so bad on a D set. Anyway, it works on my
   D set.
   I use the B-flats quite a bit but this seems to be a personal
   idiosyncrasy; whereas I'm not sure that most players would benefit from
   having a high Bb, I think they *would* find a high C very useful (on a
   D set).  And as Philip says, the more the D set is used as a concert
   pitch instrument, the more useful the high B-flat is.
   So to answer your question more directly, the high C should go on the
   back left, and whichever other one you use should go on the back right.

   The usual solution with a standard-pitch "F" set is to put a high C on
   the left, paired with the A in place of the seldom-used high A#/B flat,

   And this is how my *F* chanter is set up, which makes it very useful as
   a concert-pitch set to play F and Bb tunes, both of which go great on
   an F chanter but usually need that top note.  Pauline does this a lot,
   I believe.  And I don't miss the high Bb on my F chanter, where it
   would be a rarely-used (concert) Ab.  But it seems getting a high C
   onto an F chanter is difficult...  I haven't discussed this with many
   makers, so don't know too much about it.

   but on a D chanter that little-used B flat becomes a useful F natural,
   while on the right side the useful "g#" of a standard set turns into d#
   - maybe not so useful if playing at concert pitch, so perhaps a high C
   could go there instead? And what if there are already two keys on each
   side? A triple slot on the left is

   I don't have enough experience with a chanter with 5 top keys to make
   any useful comment.

   what I used for John Clifford's chanter, but there may be better
   solutions - any input, Colin and other makers?
   Philip
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