See below... Dick Hensold St. Paul, MN 651/646-6581
Traditional Folk Music, Early Music, and Cambodian Music Northumbrian smallpipes, recorder, Medieval greatpipes,Swedish sackpipa, & beyaw. [1]www.dickhensold.com On Aug 26, 2009, at 7:34 AM, Philip Gruar wrote: Dick wrote My D set has a high C, and if pipemakers are interested in my opinion, I don't think D sets should be made without a high C. It's just too useful, and allows much more concert pitch playing. Probably too obvious to mention, but I guess we are to assume this means "virtual high C", which on a D set actually sounds concert-pitch G. Right, and I'll continue to use "G system" terms. As I pipe-maker, I take the advice on board. It seems very sensible, there is easily room for it on a D chanter, and I'll always be interested in Dick's opinion (flattery is never out of place, and this is sincere anyway :-)) Which side is the key on, Dick? and where should the key go if all D chanters are to have a high C as standard? The tricky thing about a high C is accessing it as easily from high A as from high B. If you make the high C the top-left-back key, you can play it with either the left little finger or the right thumb, or if necessary, both in sequence. So both B-C-B and A-C-A sequences are not too difficult. B-C-A and A-C-B sequences are still hard, but this can be helped by bending the keys in just the right way. That being said, the high C is still the trickiest key on the set to deal with-- but so useful it's worth it. My D set has only 4 top keys, (forgoing the F# which I rarely miss since I play more often in concert pitch than "G system") the high B-flat being the top-back-right key. This puts the B and Bb holes very close together, but maybe not so bad on a D set. Anyway, it works on my D set. I use the B-flats quite a bit but this seems to be a personal idiosyncrasy; whereas I'm not sure that most players would benefit from having a high Bb, I think they *would* find a high C very useful (on a D set). And as Philip says, the more the D set is used as a concert pitch instrument, the more useful the high B-flat is. So to answer your question more directly, the high C should go on the back left, and whichever other one you use should go on the back right. The usual solution with a standard-pitch "F" set is to put a high C on the left, paired with the A in place of the seldom-used high A#/B flat, And this is how my *F* chanter is set up, which makes it very useful as a concert-pitch set to play F and Bb tunes, both of which go great on an F chanter but usually need that top note. Pauline does this a lot, I believe. And I don't miss the high Bb on my F chanter, where it would be a rarely-used (concert) Ab. But it seems getting a high C onto an F chanter is difficult... I haven't discussed this with many makers, so don't know too much about it. but on a D chanter that little-used B flat becomes a useful F natural, while on the right side the useful "g#" of a standard set turns into d# - maybe not so useful if playing at concert pitch, so perhaps a high C could go there instead? And what if there are already two keys on each side? A triple slot on the left is I don't have enough experience with a chanter with 5 top keys to make any useful comment. what I used for John Clifford's chanter, but there may be better solutions - any input, Colin and other makers? Philip To get on or off this list see list information at [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://www.dickhensold.com/ 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html