The Iliad and Odyssey were probably composed sometime between the Mycenaean 
era and classical times, but the versions we know were almost certainly written 
down in the early classical era. There is evidence (eg lines that apparently 
don't scan properly), of language changes between composition and writing down.

Generally people in literate societies have far worse memories than in 
societies with oral/aural cultures.

Ask an ear player how many tunes he knows - it will be more than  I can 
remember where I kept the dots of....

John

-----Original Message-----
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of 
christopher.bi...@ec.europa.eu
Sent: 22 June 2011 10:15
To: phi...@gruar.clara.net; nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [NSP] Re: Deaf/dead

Thank you in turn, Philip. The ancient sagas are an interesting question. I 
don't know when or how the Iliad and the Odyssey came to be fixed in their 
present form, but I do know that the Kalevala was a compilation from a variety 
of sources made only in the 19th century.

>A sobering thought for some of us who struggle to remember 
>tunes, and forget 
>people's names.

Indeed!
C



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