Hi To All,
many thanks to all who wrote. i will give the 4mm rod a try as it is
the closes i can get to 4.76mm. since it might be a little narrow, will
i have t compensate in the length or the width of the reed when making
it? or is the difference to small to make a real difference?
in time i will order the right rod from the model shops which you have
kindly sent me, but for now i will have a go with the local brass rods.
many thanks,
kevin
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From: Francis Wood <[email protected]>
To: cwhill <[email protected]>
Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, 27 November 2011, 18:26
Subject: [NSP] Re: 4mm or 6mm staples
Colin's interesting account of making staples from sheet metal is a
very good reminder that this was the staple [pun unavoidable] method of
making staples for historical reeds - they generally relied on the
binding to keep them airtight.
No reason why that shouldn't work perfectly well today, although many
of todays tins are corrugated. However, the easiest source of tube fit
for the job is brass or (cheaper) aluminium tube from the nearest model
shop. Quite often this stuff is sourced from the US and though it may
have nominal metric sizes, is often actually imperial with a 5/32"
(4mm) internal diameter and a 3/16" (4.76mm) exterior.
I think some experimentation and variation on the standard recommended
dimensions would be really good (is anyone already doing this?) and the
hand -rolled staple may be an excellent way of doing this.
A final word in praise of the NPS Forum and its 'Pipe making and
Maintenance' area - which is a really good place for following and
preserving discussions like the present one.
Francis
On 27 Nov 2011, at 16:51, cwhill wrote:
> 3/16" is 4.76mm (so very near to 5mm) so I presume you meant that and
> should you downsize to 4 or try for a 5mm tube?
> Personally, I made my staples from a Fray Bentos pie tin lid as brass
> tubing was hard to get back then so never had to buy any (it worked -
> paint side out - as I had a drill the right size to mould it around.
> That was what was in my instruction book - along with getting reed
cane
> from old flower baskets!).
> Current reed makers must have gone metric by now so they should know.
> Yes, you can get 5mm
> [1]http://www.metalsmith.co.uk/metals-materials.htm
> BT5 on that page 500mm for -L-2.60
> Do note that the size is external diameter so the internal bore is
> actually 4mm
> Unfortunately I don't know what your instruction book means by 3/16
> (internal or external).
>
>
> Colin Hill
>
>
> On 27/11/2011 15:33, Kevin wrote:
>> Hi to All,
>> can any one advise me what size staples to buy for making NSP
chanter
>> reeds?
>> in my local D.I.Y. there are brass rods of 4mm or 6mm, but i read
in my
>>
>> booklet on making reeds that it is 3/16th (imperial) and my chart
says
>> 3/16th is 4mm. so what do i go for? is 6mm too big or is 4 too
small?
>> can one get 5mm rods now?
>> any advice on what to buy.
>> thanks
>> kevin
>>
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