Additional notes to my own mail: Maybe it would be reasonable to remove the choices (recommended, custom, manual) from the main page and introduce a toolbar button/menu entry instead. The toolbar button could provide functionality like 'Set default settings now'. If the user presses it, a dialog window appears: 'This will replace your current settings with the recommended default values. Check them before you save the configuration.'
Doing so, we would just modify the way to access the creation of a new configuration with the defaults. However, such button would be much more intuitive and differences for root/non-root users were easier to handle. Ok, we would break the UI from the last Release candidate but frankly we're not really ready for RCs yet. Good night. Jean-Peer Am Donnerstag, den 11.02.2010, 00:21 +0100 schrieb Jean-Peer Lorenz: > Hi, > > in order to document the schedule feature I had a deeper look into it > and discovered some issues I want to discuss: The currently implemented > scheduling doesn't work properly and is quite confusing/messy. > > I've fixed some obvious bugs related to this so far: > > * I moved the 'max. incremental backups in days' from the time tab/page > to the general page since this is not related to scheduling at all. > * I disabled the scheduling for non-default profiles since they can > overwrite schedule settings made in the default profile and this can be > very confusing. > * I fixed some issues with updating of the cron services. > > These changes are not pushed upstream so far. > > > What I intend to do for the series 0.2 is to simplify the schedule UI > even more: > > * I suggest to remove the *precise* settings for > hourly/daily/weekly/monthly backups completely from the UI. I think we > should keep only the *simple* settings and the custom setting. The > reason is that precise scheduling is always loaded as a custom setting > (when opening such configuration again) and this is hard to fix in > series 0.2. For average users a simple setting on a > hourly/daily/weekly/monthly base would be sufficient and experienced > users (assuming they know what a cronline is) can still define their own > custom setting. There are better ways that should be implemented > (crontab) for later releases and it is not necessary to spend too much > effort to fix this in 0.2 since it keeps a hack and lacks support for > non-root users. > > * Moreover, I suggest to simplify the general backup settings on the > main page. The current implementation is buggy and misleading. My idea > is to remove the radio button for 'Manual backups only' completely and > to keep only the choices for 'recommended' and 'custom' backups. I think > this is much clearer than it is now. The problem that remains is that > for non-root users we cannot set up daily backups as a recommended > setting in 0.2. So, either we also modify the description for > 'recommended settings' on the main page for non-root users or remove it > completely. > > In general: > * For release 0.2 we should provide a simple but working application as > fast as possible and then implement new features like scheduling for > root/non-root users in 0.3. This means, we should not try to fix every > aspect in 0.2 rather making it working well (even if some features a > missing or get cut) and then go on with the development of the project > (I really want to see the notification working in a release - this would > be a huge improvement in usability ;-) > > What do you think? I'm looking forward to your thoughts. > > Regards. > Jean-Peer > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~nssbackup-team > Post to : nssbackup-team@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~nssbackup-team > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
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