What he actually said was much closer to "It looks like the ABC has lost a
number of seats".
Laughing and clarifying the point, he remarked "That's only the second time
in 10 years I've made that mistake".
 
 
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Steven Millward
Sent: Monday, 23 August 2010 6:10 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Odds
 
It's a perfectly impartial question that relates to our ability to win a
bet.  I'd suggest that gambling is a topic that is reasonable and common on
this email group, and so debating the next leader of the ALP is no different
to debating the winner of the Championship or a horserace.
 
My hypothesis is that most countries elect a centrist leader as they are
likely to have connected with a wider percentage of the population.  This
election featured two leaders that were each historically further left and
right of the centre than Rudd or Howard, both of whom had to then try to
claim the middle ground.  I just wonder whether a union man can occupy that
ground well or does he product a whiff of trouble amongst middle Australia
 
Whether the ALP believes that though is a different matter but their recent
track record in picking electable leaders is quite poor.
 
Talking of impartiality, I spotted a delightful comment on election night on
ABC.  Kerry O'Brien to Stephen Smith:  "Stephen it looks like we have lost a
number of seats tonight."
 
 
 
 

 
On 23 August 2010 16:33, Marcus Chantry <[email protected]>
wrote:
Treading on dangerous ground here Steve.  The only left wing and right wing
discussions we should be having on this list are about Jarvis, Kightly & co.
 
 
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Steven Millward
Sent: Monday, 23 August 2010 3:56 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Odds
 
One of Rudd's advantages was that he wasn't seen as part of the union.  Do
we really need an organised labour leader who owes so many people for his
position to be PM?
 

 
On 23 August 2010 15:40, Marcus Chantry <[email protected]>
wrote:
Shorten seemed to come across very well on Saturday night when he was
interviewed and at least he has the numbers in the labour party to ensure
that he doesn't get his own midnight phone call to tell him he's got the axe
like Krudd.  If Julia is unfortunate enough to stay as PM, it's a sure bet
that Shorten will turf her at some point in the not too distant future.
 
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Steven Millward
Sent: Monday, 23 August 2010 3:15 PM
To: nswolves
Subject: [NSWolves] Odds
 
Look at the odds on the next Labor leader
 
 
<http://www.smh.com.au/federal-election/odds-shorten-on-next-labor-leader-20
100823-13d2g.html>
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-election/odds-shorten-on-next-labor-leader-201
00823-13d2g.html
 
Not sure when the next election has to be.  All a bit difficult if it is in
a month's time but in three years it might be worth a flutter.
 
$31 for Kevin to return.  Note that the poll on this page has him as the
preferred leader by the general public.
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