The netlogon.log file will tell you if he is logging on from anywhere
besides his own computer

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Rob Weatherly
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jason Tolentino [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 5:39 PM
To: NT 2000 Discussions
Subject: RE: help with windows lockouts

Don't know if you got my earlier message.. did you make sure he's not
logged onto some computer with and old password?

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John Balos
Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 2:39 PM
To: NT 2000 Discussions
Subject: RE: help with windows lockouts

No, I removed his machine and added it back to the domain and still no
success. He's been locked out twice since this morning (after the
delete/readd of his machine), and will probably be locked out again
before the days over. Hmm???? 

-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 10:06 AM
To: NT 2000 Discussions
Subject: RE: help with windows lockouts

Friggin Lyris

Remove and readd the machine to the domain.

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Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
Atlanta, GA


> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Balos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 1:03 PM
> To: NT 2000 Discussions
> Subject: RE: help with windows lockouts
> 
> 
> How can I test out if there is a secure channel with the domain? The
> user can get to his email, network drive and other network resources.
> But at multiple times during the day, he cannot. Obviously, at that
> point he's lost the connection. Also, the user doesn't or 
> hasn't changed
> any service rights. All services on his local machine are the same as
> they were before this happened. ??? This is really odd. What kind of
> negative effect if any would there be if I delete the user 
> account from
> AD? Do you think this would fix the problem? (Even if this did fix the
> problem, I still would like to find the cause of this) 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 9:45 AM
> To: NT 2000 Discussions
> Subject: RE: help with windows lockouts
> 
> Hmm.. Is the PC in a different domain?
> 
> Is it possible that the pc lost its secure channel with the domain?
> 
> Any of the items where the user shows Locally means they are 
> logged into
> the
> machine. Remotely usually is an IPC$ conenction or any other
> authenticated
> Windows Service.
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------
> Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
> Atlanta, GA
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John Balos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 12:28 PM
> > To: NT 2000 Discussions
> > Subject: RE: help with windows lockouts
> > 
> > 
> > Well, I did download this tool. I ran the psloggedon and it 
> > queried the
> > network for logons. It only found this user logged on to the domain
> > locally and remotely. It didn't however tell me that he was 
> > logged into
> > his workstation even though he is...? Maybe I'm missing 
> something. ( I
> > know I am, lol) 
> > 
> > John
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 4:24 AM
> > To: NT 2000 Discussions
> > Subject: RE: help with windows lockouts
> > 
> > Go to http://www.sysinternals.com and grab the PSTools 
> package (free).
> > It
> > contains an app called PSLoggedon that will query all active 
> > machines in
> > the
> > domain and show you if that user is logged on anywhere else. 
> > That really
> > is
> > what this sounds like to me.
> > 
> > ------------------------------------------------------
> > Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
> > Sr. Systems Administrator
> > Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
> > Atlanta, GA
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: John Balos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 11:04 PM
> > > To: NT 2000 Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: help with windows lockouts
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Yea, I've been there. I know what you talking about. But 
> > this problem
> > > seems different actually. This user will be working fine in 
> > > outlook, he
> > > can access his network drives with no problem and he can 
> > shut down how
> > > system. The first thing that happens to him in the morning 
> > is that his
> > > account is locked out. And then again, he can take a 
> short break and
> > > come back (and I asked him to exit outlook and try logging 
> > > into outlook
> > > again) and he wasn't able to. I then asked him to log off 
> > and log back
> > > on and obviously his account was locked. ???? I don't know. 
> > > 
> > > I saved his security event log and I'm reviewing it, and 
> I can trace
> > > back event ids' 529, 539 and a few others as far back as 
> > > 1/10/2003. This
> > > is where I'm at as of now, trying to understand what exactly 
> > > is causing
> > > this account lock out. It could always be someone trying to 
> > > get in with
> > > his user name & password, but I kind of doubt that that's 
> > what it is.
> > > There is some kind of authentication or program usage, or
> > > something....??? That is causing this. I don't know. 
> > > 
> > > John
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Adam Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 4:43 PM
> > > To: NT 2000 Discussions
> > > Subject: Re: help with windows lockouts
> > > 
> > > On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 03:24:08PM -0800, John Balos said:
> > > > Hello, I have a user who's account is constantly being 
> > > locked out. We
> > > > are in a windows XP/Server 2000 env. Can anyone help out? 
> > > 
> > > We experience this problem with users who use E-Mail checking 
> > > software,
> > > or
> > > are too idiotic to realize that when Outlook's asking them for a
> > > password,
> > > it's because they changed it today.
> > > 
> > > The software package that used to be popular around here (called
> > > SimpleCheck) is designed to notify you when you have mail 
> > and put up a
> > > list
> > > of the new messages on your screen.  It didn't, however, 
> > > notify you that
> > > your password was being rejected.  Once a user changed 
> > their password,
> > > SimpleCheck would continue checking for email every 'n' 
> > > minutes and was
> > > rejected each time.  The more freqently these checks were 
> > > rejected, the
> > > more frequently a user got locked out.
> > > 
> > > Secondly, many users are just too simple to realize that 
> > > Outlook stores
> > > passwords.  If they select the 'Remember Password' 
> option, then are
> > > forced
> > > to change their password down the track, they are continually
> > > challeneged
> > > when checking their email until they reset their password in the
> > > dialogue
> > > box.  Some users just keep pressing enter over and over again 
> > > expecting
> > > it
> > > to work, and eventually locking themselves out.
> > > 
> > > It is amazing the amount of times I get someone ringing me 
> > saying they
> > > can't check their email and I say to them "Have you changed your
> > > password
> > > today?"
> > > 
> > > The response is often "Yes."
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > Adam Smith
> > > Information Technology Officer
> > > SAGE Automation Ltd.
> > > 
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > http://www.sageautomation.com
> > > 
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