Peter Rolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Hello Peter,

thanks for the answer, I was actually using the visual debugger, but I
wasn't able to tell what the small sqare was for.

So one other question: 
%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
\showmakeup
\starttext
\setuphead[section][textcommand=\framed,before=]
\hbox{\framed[width=5cm,height=5cm,align={middle,high},offset=0pt]{%
offset=0pt hp\section{Hello}
        why is there so much space above the word hello??}
\framed[width=5cm,height=5cm,align={middle,high},offset=none]{%
offset=none hp\section{Hello}
        why is there so much space above the word hello??}}
\stoptext
%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%

what is the difference between offset=0pt and offset=none? I thought
that it would only insert a strut, but then again I thought that a
strut has the height and the depth of the font. This is clearly not
the case here, since the f (or h) should be the highest char and p pretty
deep. But compared to the right example there is some space above the
f and below the p. 

Patrick
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