Hi Pablo,

… well, it was (again) a demand from publishers, it wasn't my idea. I am 
absolutely dispassionate regarding this question (as I am more interested in 
the typographical aspects of typesetting).

But I will tell them your concerns, as they are for sure interesting.

Yours, Steffen


> Am 30.04.2025 um 18:32 schrieb Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context 
> <ntg-context@ntg.nl>:
> 
> On 4/30/25 07:49, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> we just saw the Accessibility Directive, now there is another
>> demand: the TDM protocol (concerning the reuse of protected works
>> for AI training purposes).
> Hi Steffen,
> 
> I have no doubt your suggestion or request is well intended.
> 
> But do you really think this may be worth the hassle?
> 
> I mean, from Llama is suspected that it has been trained with more than
> 80TB of unauthorised copies of books (from shadow libraries
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna%27s_Archive#Meta_lawsuit,
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_Genesis#Alleged_Meta_AI_training).
> 
> Do you really think that reservations will be honoured?
> 
> Even when they honour reservations, research purposes seem to be granted
> without possible reservations (probably also to commercial entities).
> 
> As for the record, Google was taken to court in Spain by an individual
> because of not complying with their robots.txt (not allowing Google to
> crawl their content).
> 
> This went to the Spanish Supreme Court, who ruled that this was a case
> of «ius usus innocui» (right to harmless use; not exactly fair right).
> 
> This was a commercial entity (well, an emporium), making a full copy of
> a copyrighted work and the author has (or had before this ruling) the
> right to control distribution of their work.
> 
> Sorry for being straight, but this is similar to data protection. As
> long as we give our data (just by using your phones or using internet),
> our data are collected, analyzed and traded in order to influence our
> behaviour.
> 
> I’m afraid that this is part of sharing documents on the internet.
> 
> Just my two cents,
> 
> Pablo
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