Hi
Den ons 13 aug. 2025 20:13Matthias Weber <matthiaswebe...@gmail.com> skrev:
> Follow-up: The 66 complaints come from \startsection .. \stopsection pairs
> (and \startsubsection .. \stopsubsection).
> Adding just one of them increases the number of complaints by two.
>
> Instead of your
>
> \setupheads
> [section,subsection]
> [color=darkred]
>
> \setuphead
> [section]
> [style=\bfb]
>
> \setuphead
> [subsection]
> [style=\bfa]
>
>
>
> I use
>
> \setuphead[subsection][number=yes,
> page=yes,
> before={\noindentation\hairline\blank},
>
> after={\nowhitespace\hairline\blank[line]\indentation}]
>
>
> \setuphead[section][number=yes,
> page=yes,
> before={\noindentation\hairline\blank},
>
> after={\nowhitespace\hairline\blank[line]\indentation}]
>
>
> which is causing trouble somehow. No big deal.
>
My bet is now the \hairline for the second one...
> Matthias
>
>
> > On Aug 13, 2025, at 1:40 PM, Matthias Weber <matthiaswebe...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Thank you so much Hans & Mikhael!
> >
> > I tested one of my lecture notes and get two complaints from VeraPDF:
> > (90 failed checks and 577444 passed checks…)
> >
> >
> > Specification: ISO 32005:2023, Clause: Table 5. P-Div, Test number: 1
> > <P> shall not contain <Div> Failed
> > 24 occurrences Hide
> > SEDiv
> > parentStandardType != 'P'
> > root/document[0]/StructTreeRoot[0](231 0 obj PDStructTreeRoot)/K[0](239
> 0 obj SEDocument document)/K[0](240 0 obj SEPart documentpart)/K[21](605 0
> obj SESect section)/K[1](611 0 obj SEDiv sectioncontent)/K[3](1770 0 obj
> SESect section)/K[1](1775 0 obj SEDiv sectioncontent)/K[4](1876 0 obj SEP
> paragraph)/K[2](1885 0 obj SEDiv formula)
> >
> >
> > and
> >
> > Specification: ISO 14289-2:2024, Clause: 8.2.2, Test number: 1
> > Content that is not considered real shall be an artifact Failed
> > 66 occurrences Hide
> > SESimpleContentItem
> > isTaggedContent == true || parentsTags.contains('Artifact') == true
> > root/document[0]/pages[1](2 0 obj PDPage)/contentStream[0](407 0 obj
> PDSemanticContentStream)/content[3]/contentItem[0]
> >
> >
> > I am absolutely clueless about these two. Is there a way to find out
> what the problem is and how I can fix it?
> >
> > Thanks again,
> >
> > Matthias
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Aug 13, 2025, at 11:12 AM, Hans Hagen via ntg-context <
> ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Due to some pressure on this list we have been looking into reasonable
> mapping from context structure onto what pdf sees as structure as of 2025.
> This is not without risk as the pdf standard, tools, interpretations,
> whatever are in constant flux. We don't fall into the target audience so
> our decisions are guess work at best.
> >>
> >> That said, we now do the following. If you enable tagging
> >>
> >> \setuptagging[state=start]
> >>
> >> you get normal tagging, without so called rolemapping. This can work
> out ok with (future) more clever parsers of the content stream (think llm).
> It doesn't pollute the pdf too much but of course bloats it.
> >>
> >> Then, if you want to go fuzzy, you can say
> >>
> >> \setupbackend
> >> [format=pdf/ua-2]
> >>
> >> \setuptagging
> >> [state=start]
> >>
> >> This gives some basic mapping. Then there is a basic mapping that or
> with Mikael figured out and tested on lecture notes and a math book. Of
> course runtime increases (so the book now needs 14 sec instead of 8 but so
> be it we might be able to improve that a little bit but all that math ...
> it's not like one tags all day).
> >>
> >> \setuptagging
> >> [state=start,
> >> preset=basic,
> >> % preset={basic,\jobname},
> >> comment={just a basic test document}]
> >>
> >> You can kick in your own mappings, e.g. which could already be done
> with commands but we now prefer using an "imp" file as hard pdf mapping
> doesn't belong in a document setup. You, as user / author knows best what
> mapping is nneeded and can work. There is tagging-basic.tex document that
> explains this.
> >>
> >> We advise to delay tagging (if needed at all, which in my case is
> never) to when a document is finished (maybe by wrapping in a mode tagging)
> so that no runtime is wasted during writing / designing.
> >>
> >> You can test / check some with
> >>
> >> mtxrun --script pdf --structure [--detail --save] yourdocument
> >> mtxrun --script pdf --validate [--interaction] yourdocument
> >>
> >> where the second one calls for verapdf, or simply test with
> >>
> >> mtxrun --script pdf --check yourdocument
> >>
> >> this is only for testing purposes; we might add some to it depending on
> our own or user demand. The possibly generated file serves no other purpose
> (and obeys crap-in-crap-out).
> >>
> >> Of course, different versions of verapdf can result in different results
> >>
> >> By default we ignore interaction because that is a mess in tagged pdf
> but you can use option=interaction to get something if needed. We think
> that when a document validates with exception of link/references no one is
> harmed.
> >>
> >> After the context meeting we will freeze the basic mapping but one can
> of course always modulate on it,
> >>
> >> Hans & Mikael
> >>
> >> (who will now pick up on more rewarding and fun things that we'd put in
> the hold)
> >>
> >> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> >> Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE
> >> Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands
> >> tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl
> >> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >>
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