Norbert Preining wrote:
>
> .... if I, too, don't agree about the documentation stuff. In fact I
> agree half-way: I want to have the source code, even if some commercial
> fonts are missing etc and would still consider this DFSG free. In fact I
> started a discussion about it some time ago, since I believe it is
> better to have (as an example):
>       fontinstallationguide.tex
>       fontinstallationguide.pdf
> where the pdf contains some commercial fonts. The user still has the
> source code, can do anything with it, AND has a
> beautiful/readable/whatever document for printing.
>
> I am often missing some "common sense" in these discussion, but OTOH I
> understand that on the larger scale of a whole distribution this is
> something a bit more complicated.
>
>   
When we have time, we put manual source code in the public svn repos at 
one of our company servers which are mirrored by taco; one problem is 
that i often use commercial fonts (ones i recently had to use in 
projects) in order to get away from this 'yet another tex look'. 
Sometimes i can define fallbacks but not always. The same is true for 
some graphics (one reason for not putting all mp code i write online is 
that i don't want them to be ripped off simply because they are part of 
the context look and feel); this means that the all-source-available 
principle cannot be met and therefore they will not be redistributed 
which is a pitty for users

I hope that you manage to get that discussions rolling, since it's a 
pitty that manuals are that restricted. I also wonder if it means that 
'a source should be processable'. Btw, what is the source of an html 
page (or makes the fact that it's readable it a source); i'm pretty sure 
that much in the open source domain contains generated docs with the 
real source missing (say an xml file and an xslt script)

Hans  

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