# Re: [NTG-context] Margin terminology -- badly documented, undocumented, or misdocumented

```On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 11:23:04 +0100
Hans Hagen <pra...@wxs.nl> scribit:```
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> On 25-2-2010 5:39, James Fisher wrote:
> > Hi all.
> >
> >
> > I am trying to understand the terminology for the \definelayout and
> > \setuplayout commands.
> > Unfortunately the documentation at
> > http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Layoutdoesn't correspond to the actual
> > output I get.
> > Nor does the 'documentation' at http://getfo.org/context_xml/page3.html ,
> > which the first page recommends.
> > More, the two pages seem pretty contradictory.
> >
> > Consider my situation: I'm trying to set up an A4 page with the following
> > margins (I use the term margin to mean the space from the edge of the
> > physical paper to the edge of the body text area):
> >
> > top: 2.97cm
> > bottom: 2.97cm
> > left: 2.1cm
> > right: 2.1cm
> >
> > For the moment, I don't care at all about header and footer space, nor notes
> > in the margins; I'm just trying to get the above margins.
> > However, with all conceivable combinations of commands at both of those
> > pages, I've been unable to set anything like this up.
> >
> > Based on the getfo.org page, I should be able to set up these left and right
> > margins with:
>
> \setuplayout
>   [backspace=2.1cm,
>    cutspace=2.1cm,
>    width=middle,
>    topspace=2.97cm,
>    bottomspace=2.97cm,
>    height=middle]
>
> \showframe
>
> \starttext
>
> \input tufte
>

\showlayout

> \stoptext
>
>
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