Hi Mojca,

Thanks for the explanation -- I wanted to make sure there is not too much of an 
overlap between NTG and the group.

Jörg

On Nov 18, 2011, at 3:44 PM, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

> On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 14:44, Hagmann Jörg wrote:
>> I wasn't aware of this: http://group.contextgarden.net/   (the "ConTeXt 
>> group").
>> 
>> Could somebody tell me, in more detail than on the above site, the purpose 
>> of it and in particular its relationship to NTG (which itself is already 
>> ConTeXt dominated)?
> 
> Dear Hagmann,
> 
> Thank you very much for the question.
> 
> We decided to create a new user group during the meeting in Brejlov in
> 2010. Main reason was that even though NTG is the group of choice for
> supporting ConTeXt development, it is not really clear to many users
> why they should join a Dutch user group. And it is not always
> justified to use NTG's money for ConTeXt only since there are also
> many other LaTeX users in the group, other interests etc.
> 
> The group has been founded slightly more than a year ago, but only
> started operating more seriously during the last ConTeXt Meeting in
> Belgium. We have 28 members now, but sadly still no bank account. We
> hope to settle that withing the next two weeks, even though we are
> still not sure which bank to choose/in what country. The main
> complication is that group is founded in France, president is Dutch,
> treasurer is German ... It is trivial if group is established in the
> same country where the bank account is opened and if both president
> and treasurer are present when the account is opened. We didn't want
> to promote the group too publicly too much yet since everyone's first
> question would be how to pay for the membership.
> 
> Why the user group?
> 
> * TeX user groups often fund projects like development of Latin
> Modern, TeX Gyre, MetaPost, LuaTeX, ... ConTeXt group would join other
> groups in helping TeX develop further.
> 
> * Costs of domain name, server, ...
> 
> * When organizing ConTeXt meetings, one might have to pay for the
> hotel and different other costs in advance (before conference fees are
> collected). The user group could help paying those costs. On the other
> hand some conference sites are more expensive than others. In case of
> an expensive conference, ConTeXt Group can help cover part of the
> costs. People who come to conferences are usually the most active
> developers and conferences are the most perfect way to brainstorm and
> get things done. On the other hand, if some money is left from the
> conference, the group can use it next year or for other reasons. One
> can also help individual developers to join the conference when they
> cannot afford to.
> 
> * The group could apply for different fundings, search sponsors etc.
> 
> * We want to publish conference proceedings. The first issue is being
> worked on and will hopefully be published very soon in 2012 (the plan
> was to release it before Christmas, but beginning of 2012 is more
> realistic).
> 
> In short: the group will help organizing meeting, pay for
> server-related costs, promote usage of ConTeXt, "force" authors to
> publish in nice proceedings, allow grateful users to give back, foster
> development of different projects that are relevant for ConTeXt, ...
> 
> We also need a new webpage design and I hope that registration still
> works after being moved to the new server ;)
> You are welcome to register. We will let you know as soon as we will
> be able to accept the payments.
> 
> Mojca
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