Am 21.08.2012 um 08:42 schrieb Mojca Miklavec <mojca.miklavec.li...@gmail.com>:

> On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 6:26 PM, Sietse Brouwer wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> The "current stable" MkIV, the MkIV on the wiki, and the MkIV in TeX
>> Live are quite different things.
>> 
>> MkIV 2011.005.18 -- result of first-setup.sh --current
>> MkIV 2011.10.008 -- version on the wiki
>> MkIV 2012.005.29 -- version in TeX Live 2012, AFAICT (Mojca?)
> 
> Usually it works better if you CC me since there are a lot of emails I
> recently skip reading (based on subject).
> 
>> 1. Why not declare the version in TeX Live to be stable? I know Mojca
>> puts some work into making it as bug-free as possible.
> 
> It was Hans who has put the work into it, but I don't know why he
> didn't release a public "current" release. I applied some minor
> patches over 2012.05.29 based on later ConTeXt version, so it's not
> *exactly* that version, but I had no idea what to do about the date.
> 
> I have no idea how Hans uploads current versions, but I could make a
> zip, upload it to CTAN and make it available as current in minimals.
> (If I forget to do that in less than a week, please remind me.)
> 
>> 3. Is there a list of past stable versions somewhere?
> 
> Probably the best answer would be the (unofficial) git repository:
>    http://gitorious.org/context/context
> I also have a repository on
>    https://github.com/mojca/context
> It's not updated though - I update from gitorious from time to time,
> but not automatically. I tried to make sure that even the oldest
> version have some consistency.
> 
>> I can't find
>> one, and without it the ability to go to a specific stable version
>> with
>> `sh ./first-setup.sh --context=date` seems a bit useless. (Can't
>> really imagine a use in general, though.)
> 
> http://minimals.contextgarden.net/current/context/
> 
> Some time ago a new stable version came out at least once per week and
> betas were rare, for testing features. I think that we asked Hans not
> to release "current" versions with testing features so often, so that
> people don't end up with broken ConTeXt. As a consequence he started
> releasing betas with that pace, but sadly he forgets to release
> current versions every now and then :(
> 
> But anyway, manually interfering and making sure that the same version
> as in TeX Live ends up in minimals (and on the wiki) would not be such
> a bad idea.
> 
>> 4. (Less important.) context.mkiv defines \contextversion as e.g.
>> `2012.08.11 14:11`, but \contextversionnumber in mult-ini.mkiv still
>> prepends a zero to the month or day. (It checks whether 08 < 10, which
>> is true even if the leading zero is present.) This causes the extra
>> zeros you saw in the version numbers above. Can this be changed
>> without breakage ensuing?
> 
> That's for Hans or Wolfgang …

\ifx\contextversion\undefined
    \def\contextversion      {unknown}
    \def\contextversionnumber{0}
\else
   %\def\contextversionnumber#1.#2.#3 #4:#5\relax{#1\ifnum#2<10 
0\fi#2\ifnum#3<10 0\fi#3 #4:#5}
        \def\contextversionnumber#1.#2.#3 #4:#5\relax{#1\ifnum#2<10 
0\fi\purenumber{#2}\ifnum#3<10 0\fi\purenumber{#3} #4:#5}
    
\edef\contextversionnumber{\expandafter\contextversionnumber\contextversion\relax\space\contextmark}
\fi

\starttext
\contextversionnumber
\stoptext

Wolfgang
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