To be clear, I wasn’t talking about list vs notes. Consider just this :
\cite[alternative=inline][doe]
\footnote{\cite[alternative=inline][foo]}
\cite[alternative=inline][doe]
The citation in the footnote should not interupt the ibid-tracking in this
case. The second doe-citation should trigger the ibid-mechanism. But:
\cite[alternative=inline][doe]
\footnote{\cite[alternative=inline][foo]}
\cite[alternative=inline][foo]
In this case, you wouldn’t want an ibid. for the foo-citation outside of the
footnote.
Denis
Von: Joey McCollum <jmccollum20140...@gmail.com>
Gesendet: Dienstag, 21. September 2021 17:16
An: Maier, Denis Christian (UB) <denis.ma...@unibe.ch>
Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] Ibid. and idem support for bibliographies (and
variable scope more generally)
Yes, I haven't added any code to check for the useibid or useidem options in
list citations; they are only used for in-text citations in the SBL
specification definition. The distinction between \setupbtx[sbl:\s!list] and
\setupbtx[sbl:\s!cite] should allow us to specify their options separately. For
list citations, we probably should add a "sameauthor" option, with "rule" (draw
a horizontal rule for repeated authors), "empty" (leave a blank space the size
of the "margin" option), and "ditto" (e.g., a dumb quote sign, or "Idem") as
potential values, since all three of these options are currently supported in
publ-imp-chicago.mkvi and publ-imp-sbl.mkvi, but as far as I know, they always
default to the "rule" setup.
Joey
On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 12:52 AM
<denis.ma...@unibe.ch<mailto:denis.ma...@unibe.ch>> wrote:
Cool.
I don't know about your particular solution, but will probably want to make
sure to have different variables for citations in the main text and in the
notes.
Denis
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<ntg-context-boun...@ntg.nl<mailto:ntg-context-boun...@ntg.nl>> im Auftrag von
Joey McCollum via ntg-context <ntg-context@ntg.nl<mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl>>
Gesendet: Dienstag, 21. September 2021 02:22:49
An: mailing list for ConTeXt users
Cc: Joey McCollum
Betreff: [NTG-context] Ibid. and idem support for bibliographies (and variable
scope more generally)
Hi,
I've found a way to implement ibid. and idem support in the SBL specification
under development at https://github.com/jjmccollum/context-sbl (this e-mail
essentially repeats my comments in
https://github.com/jjmccollum/context-sbl/issues/5), but I'm not sure if my
solution is a recommended way to solve the problem, and I'm curious about why
the more straightforward approach doesn't work.
I've added useibid and useidem options for the \definebtx command (making them
language-dependent by adding them to mult-def.lua, which seems to be how the
other options have been implemented). Ideally, I'd like to follow the pattern
of the chicago:list:sameauthor setup and use a macro similar to
\btxdoifsameaspreviouselse. But since \btxdoifsameaspreviouselse relies on the
indexed structure of the bibliographic list to determine what the "previous"
entry is, it won't work for my purposes; I need to retrieve the tag of the last
entry passed to the \cite command.
I ended up making this work by initializing a global variable via
```
\setxvariables[btx:sbl][previousinlinetag=\empty]
```
in the publ-imp-sbl.mkvi file, resetting it at the end of each citation via
```
\setxvariables[btx:sbl][previousinlinetag=\currentbtxtag]
```
and checking it in the appropriate places via
```
getvariable{btx:sbl}{previousinlinetag}
```
I initially tried to do this with a simple macro \btx_sbl_previousinlinetag
defined in publ-imp-sbl.mkvi (in the same scope as the rest of the
specification), but attempting to reset it in the cite setups with \let or \def
didn't work. Why doesn't this work? Is the setup for a cite alternative
executed in its own scope in a way that would prevent me from updating a
variable defined in the scope of the rendering specification? And is there a
way to do this that is preferable to using global variables?
Thanks!
Joey
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