At 10:31 PM 11/11/2002 +0100, you wrote:
first of all, we're not dealing with a bug, it's a feature; so, if some other behavior is wanted, it should be an option of extension to existing mechanisms, nog a replacement.Monday, November 11, 2002 Idris S Hamid wrote:ISH> Dear posse, ISH> The itemize environment has a strange feature/bug: (This should answer your "quotation" question too, at least partly) All "blocks" have this bug; IIRC it comes from Hans preference of spacey "readable" sources; this means all \par tokens after a \stop are globbed, and (IIRC) a new paragraph is always started: thus the indentnext option *always* take place. IOW, you cannot have one of these blocks *within* a paragraph. Hans, am I right? Well, if I am, this is absolutely wrong. Presence or absence of \pars before and after should not be ignored, or at least should be made an option. My workaround for now is to use \nulls after \stop... commands, but this is somewhat clunky.
there is one thing we should keep in mind: naive users are not always aware of tex's empty line == par, so this is why \start/\stop things are consistent in absense or presense of them;
distinguishing between display and semi-display is therefore not that trivial, and the best option is separate environments, like
\startquotation ... \stopquotation
(or \startdquotation ... \stopdquotation for display quotation) versus
\startpquotation ... \stoppquotation
for an in-paragraph one (like we have with formulas, see core-mat.tex)
that way, one knows what to expect, since it's clear from the coding, and not from a (forgotten, or accidental) empty line
another option is to have a dedidated environment
\startinparagraph ... \stopinparagraph
or \startcontinue ... \stopcontinue
which nills the surrounding whitespace and inhibits the next indent. (this should be not that hard to implement)
Hans
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