Thank you for the explanation. It seems however I've run up against
another problem: the number of subnets that ntop will consider to be
local : I start it with
 -m 
10.117.0.0/24,10.118.0.0/24,10.116.0.0/24,10.113.0.0/24,10.114.0.0/24,10.112.0.0/24,10.112.1.0/24,10.153.201.0/24,10.112.3.0/24,10.110.1.0/24,10.110.0.0/24,10.109.0.0/24,10.111.0.0/24,10.107.0.0/24,10.206.0.0/24,10.106.0.0/24,10.205.0.0/24,10.105.0.0/24,10.104.0.0/24,10.103.0.0/24,10.152.0.0/24,10.102.1.0/24,10.102.0.0/24,10.156.0.0/24,10.102.3.0/24,209.106.200.0/24,209.106.201.0/24,209.106.202.0/24,209.106.203.0/24,209.106.204.0/24,209.106.205.0/24,209.106.206.0/24,209.106.207.0/24,204.185.18.0/24,204.185.19.0/24,66.250.247.152/32,66.250.247.153/32,24.117.104.161/255.255.255.248,10.124.0.0/24,10.123.0.0/24,10.123.1.0/24,10.121.0.0/24,10.120.0.0/24,10.219.0.0/24,10.219.2.0/24,10.119.0.0/24,10.119.1.0/24,10.119.2.0/24
 but in the configuration page it shows just 
-m 10.117.0.0/24, 10.118.0.0/24, 10.116.0.0/24, 10.113.0.0/24,
10.114.0.0/24, 10.112.0.0/24, 10.112.1.0/24, 10.153.201.0/24,
10.112.3.0/24, 10.110.1.0/24, 10.110.0.0/24, 10.109.0.0/24,
10.111.0.0/24, 10.107.0.0/24, 10.206.0.0/24, 10.106.0.0/24,
10.205.0.0/24, 10.105.0.0/24, 10.104.0.0/24, 10.103.0.0/24,
10.152.0.0/24, 10.102.1.0/24, 10.102.0.0/24, 10.156.0.0/24,
10.102.3.0/24, 209.106.200.0/24, 209.106.201.0/24, 209.106.202.0/24,
209.106.203.0/24, 209.106.204.0/24, 209.106.205.0/24,
209.106.206.0/24.

Is it possible to increase the number of subnets it will consider
local, or should I define some of them as /16 ?

Thank you,
Stefan.


On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 07:50:36 -0600, Burton M. Strauss III
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You've answered your own question, but you are too wedded to your own
> certain knowledge that there are only 400-500 hosts.  There aren't.
> 
> ANY IP address ntop sees is a host.
> 
> A host is a host is a host.
> 
> A host is something ntop creates a HostTraffic entry for, i.e. stores
> information about.
> 
> If there are packets addressed to 200K hosts, then there are 200K hosts.
> 
> With --track-local-hosts only, the remote hosts are dumped into 'other'.
> But every LOCAL IP seen per your -m definition of what's local, is a
> HostTraffic entry.
> 
> 200K hosts * 2K is 400M of memory.  200K * 12K is 2.4G of memory - it's
> going to depend on what ntop sees in those packets as to how much per host
> memory it's going to take.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Burton
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Behalf Of Stefan Iaru
> > Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 2:05 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [Ntop-dev] ntop keeps crashing
> >
> >
> > I see it is running out of memory, but my question is why ? It has 1.5
> > GB of RAM, and nothing else besides ntop is running on that box, and
> > I've also allocated about 8 GB of swap, of which it usually uses 500 -
> > 1000 MB before going down.
> >
> > I just added 10.0.0.0/8 because I have a number of 10.x.0.0/24
> > subnets, and I was lazy about adding them all in. The number of active
> > nodes usually reaches 4-500, but the most I've seen ntop track is ~
> > 200 000 (I set the trace level to 4 and monitored the logs). I believe
> > the number gets that high because of viral infections that cause
> > machines to scan inexistent subnets, therefore adding the hosts in
> > ntop's database.
> >
> > I've been modifying the IDLE_PURGE variables, decreasing the time a
> > host needs to be idle in order to be deleted and increasing the number
> > of hosts that can be removed, but I haven't seen any increase in
> > performance, and even though it sometimes deletes 5000 hosts in one go
> > (taking forever to do so), memory utilization doesn't go down. I know
> > the deletion process is time-consuming, but I was hoping it would help
> > some.
> >
> > Perhaps I am taking the wrong approach, so I would appreciate it if
> > you could point me in the right direction, as this tool is saving us a
> > lot of time tracking down infected machines/spammers/hackers etc.
> >
> > Thank you,
> >
> > Stefan.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 08:49:49 -0600, Burton M. Strauss III
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > What do you want... it's CLEAR in the log:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Nov  9 19:30:09 linux ntop[11437]:   **FATAL_ERROR** malloc(10384) @
> > > pbuf.c:122 returned NULL [no more memory?]
> > > Nov  9 19:30:09 linux ntop[11437]:   **WARNING** ntop packet
> > capture STOPPED
> > > Nov  9 19:30:09 linux ntop[11437]:   NOTE: ntop web server remains up
> > > Nov  9 19:30:09 linux ntop[11437]:   NOTE: Shutdown gracefully and
> > > restart with more memory
> > > Nov  9 19:30:09 linux ntop[11437]:   **FATAL_ERROR** malloc(10384) @
> > > pbuf.c:122 returned NULL [no more memory?]
> > >
> > > ntop is running out of memory, and has handled it gracefully.
> > Even after
> > > the 'crash', the web server should still be up so you can grab
> > textinfo.html
> > > data and post real memory usage info.
> > >
> > > If you can't capture it after the 'crash', then setup a cron'ed
> > wget of that
> > > page to match up to a crash...
> > >
> > > But the $64? is "How many hosts are you really tracking"? With
> > 10.0.0.0/8 as
> > > local, it could be HUGE...
> > >
> > > -----Burton
> 
> 


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Stefan Iaru
http://www.iaru.net
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