I noticed something similar re the admin login.  Try using admin for the pw, or 
ntop or something...

As for graph confidence, some are whacked for sure, but throughput is pretty 
accurate.  Make sure your netflow confs "see" all the traffic! Usually this is 
misconfigured and ntop only sees half the conversation.  Timers should be 
10secs for inactive and 60secs for active IMO.

----- Original Message -----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Sent: Fri Apr 30 11:08:18 2010
Subject: Re: [Ntop] No data in Netflow on FreeBSD 7.0

Holy Moly - svn (4253) build works! Or, at least I have data on both 
local and Netflow interfaces. Still looking at the data to see if it 
makes sense.

I have noticed before that the Throughput numbers don't match our Cacti 
graphs even a little (800k vs 3M). Not ready to chase that quite yet. I 
suppose cache timeout active on the router might be related.

One odd thing I've bumped into with the svn checkout is I seem to lose 
the ability to login to admin. When I first start, I get the password 
set prompts, and am then able to login. Then if I shutdown ntop and 
restart (doesn't matter whether daemon mode or interactive), I then 
can't get past the login to get into the admin functions. I realize this 
is dev code, so this is just a note...

thank you again for your time

tim

Gary Gatten wrote:
> I would try svn, I can't say what's actually in the tar.  Agree with you on 
> ports.  Makes me long for the day of static/monolythic exe's. Can't 
> understand why some developers insist on using a library with two dozen other 
> dependancies for one simple function!  But I digress...
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thu Apr 29 21:37:21 2010
> Subject: Re: [Ntop] No data in Netflow on FreeBSD 7.0
>
> Hmm, well, when would have been within the past two weeks, maybe 
> Wednesday last, where - I'm 95% sure from ntop.org. Tar ball, not SVN.
>
> we generally stay away from ports because of the lack of control over 
> dependencies. I was going to do the port, but it started pulling 
> rrdtool, which I already have from source. I'll figure out how to 
> convince the port to use my version of rrdtool tomorrow and give it a try.
>
> On 04/29/2010 10:20 PM, Gary Gatten wrote:
>   
>> Where/when did you get your source?  I wanna diff with mine.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: [email protected]<[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]<[email protected]>
>> Sent: Thu Apr 29 21:06:00 2010
>> Subject: Re: [Ntop] No data in Netflow on FreeBSD 7.0
>>
>> Recompiled with 3 DEBUG defines uncommented in netflowPlugin.c
>>
>> Restarting shows the Netflow device being initialized and mapped to an
>> ntop device, then after everything else is setup, I see my one packet,
>> than nothing else:
>>
>> Apr 29 21:45:53 netmon ntop[49722]:   NETFLOW_DEBUG: Received NetFlow
>> packet(len=1272)(deviceId=1)
>> Apr 29 21:45:53 netmon ntop[49722]:   NETFLOW: dissectFlow(len=1272,
>> device=1) [flow packet=1]
>> Apr 29 21:45:53 netmon ntop[49722]:>>>>  NETFLOW: handleGenericFlow() called
>> Apr 29 21:45:53 netmon ntop[49722]:   NETFLOW_DEBUG: a=3232235792
>> Apr 29 21:45:53 netmon ntop[49722]:   DEBUG: 192.168.1.16:0 ->
>> 192.168.100.23:771 [last=923276096][first=923276096][last-first=0]
>> Apr 29 21:46:01 netmon ntop[49722]:   IDLE_PURGE: Device 0 [em0]
>> FINISHED selection, 0 [out of 4] hosts selected
>> Apr 29 21:46:01 netmon ntop[49722]:   IDLE_PURGE: Device em0: no hosts
>> [out of 3] deleted
>> Apr 29 21:46:01 netmon ntop[49722]:   IDLE_PURGE: Device 1
>> [NetFlow-device.2] FINISHED selection, 0 [out of 4] hosts selected
>>
>> The sequence of RRD cycles and IDLE_PURGEs then continues, with no more
>> packets.
>>
>> I'm happy to post more logging, but I figure if anyone really wants
>> pages of logs, they'll let me know.
>>
>> And that's enough for me tonight.
>>
>> tim
>>
>> On 04/29/2010 09:30 PM, Tim Palmer wrote:
>>    
>>     
>>> I'll give the debug recompile a shot. I'm no coder, but I suspect I
>>> can find the debug code.
>>>
>>> I should have mentioned - I had this same machine working last week
>>> with 3.3.10, also under FBSD 7.0, but p9 rather than p12 as now,
>>> although if I ran in daemon mode, I got the infamous "kevent: Bad file
>>> descriptor" messages. I really wanted daemon mode, so tried the
>>> "rfork" change from
>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hackers/2009-November/030105.html.
>>> That gave me the same results I'm getting now - nice screens, no
>>> errors, and no data. The box's RAID died a horrible death over the
>>> weekend, and I'm working on a rebuild.
>>>
>>> I hate that feeling when I'm having a problem no one else seems to
>>> have. Makes me think I'm missing something simple, but I just can't
>>> mail it.
>>>
>>> thanks again for your time,
>>>
>>> tim
>>>
>>> On 04/29/2010 08:22 PM, Gary Gatten wrote:
>>>      
>>>       
>>>> I used to run on FBSD 6, but now RHEL5 so don't know first hand of
>>>> issues with FBSD anymore. My understanding is it *works* fine.  I
>>>> know there is some logic in the code to do somethings different if OS
>>>> is FBSD, maybe that is broken?  If you like source, there are several
>>>> places in the code to enable DEBUG output, starting in
>>>> globals-defines.h, but also within the netflow plugin module code.
>>>> It will spew a $HITLOAD of messages, so maybe build it with a
>>>> different prefix and only run for a few seconds.  I'll try to think
>>>> of something else....  MAYBE try the port just to see if it works and
>>>> if so diff the code?
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From:
>>>> [email protected]<[email protected]>
>>>> To: [email protected]<[email protected]>
>>>> Sent: Thu Apr 29 18:55:34 2010
>>>> Subject: Re: [Ntop] No data in Netflow on FreeBSD 7.0
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the quick reply(s)
>>>>
>>>> "Sounds like you tried most everything."
>>>> <sigh>   yeah, that's what I thought.
>>>>
>>>> Interface is selected. Netflow statistics says 1 packet in, 1 out, 40
>>>> bytes, 1 flow. Nothing in any of the v1/v5/v9 rows, nothing except "1
>>>> flow processed" in the Discarded section.
>>>>
>>>> running as root, with -t 5 doesn't show me anything I can identify as a
>>>> problem - This is the log section that seems most relevant:
>>>>
>>>> Apr 29 19:40:30 netmon ntop[37164]:   Now running as requested user
>>>> 'root' (0:0)
>>>> Apr 29 19:40:30 netmon ntop[37164]:   Device  0.
>>>> em0                            (active)
>>>> Apr 29 19:40:30 netmon ntop[37164]:   Device  1.
>>>> NetFlow-device.2               (active)
>>>> Apr 29 19:40:30 netmon ntop[37164]:   Note: Reporting device initally
>>>> set to 1 [NetFlow-device.2]
>>>> Apr 29 19:40:30 netmon ntop[37164]:   MEMORY: Base interface structure
>>>> (no hashes loaded) is 0.33MB each
>>>> Apr 29 19:40:30 netmon ntop[37164]:   MEMORY:     or 0.65MB for 2
>>>> interfaces
>>>> Apr 29 19:40:30 netmon ntop[37164]:   MEMORY: ipTraffixMatrix structure
>>>> (no TrafficEntry loaded) is 0.36MB
>>>> Apr 29 19:40:30 netmon ntop[37164]:   THREADMGMT[t34412171552]: ntop
>>>> RUNSTATE: RUN(4)
>>>> Apr 29 19:40:30 netmon ntop[37164]:   THREADMGMT[t34412176704]: NPS(1):
>>>> Started thread for network packet sniffing [em0]
>>>> Apr 29 19:40:30 netmon ntop[37164]:   THREADMGMT[t34412176704]:
>>>> NPS(em0): pcapDispatch thread starting [p37164]
>>>> Apr 29 19:40:30 netmon ntop[37164]:   THREADMGMT[t34412175968]: NETFLOW:
>>>> (port 9990) thread running [p37164]
>>>>
>>>> and:
>>>>
>>>> Apr 29 19:40:55 netmon ntop[37164]:   RRD: Cycle 0 ended, 38 RRDs
>>>> updated, 0.037 seconds
>>>> Apr 29 19:40:55 netmon ntop[37164]:   RRD_DEBUG: Sleeping for 300
>>>> seconds (interval 300, end at Thu Apr 29 19:45:55 2010)
>>>> Apr 29 19:43:04 netmon ntop[37164]:   SECURITY: Loading items table
>>>> Apr 29 19:45:57 netmon ntop[37164]:   RRD: Cycle 1 ended, 18 RRDs
>>>> updated, 0.006 seconds
>>>>
>>>> tim
>>>>
>>>> On 04/29/2010 06:32 PM, Gary Gatten wrote:
>>>>        
>>>>         
>>>>> Also, try running as root to rule out perms and maybe start with -t
>>>>> 5 and hope to get some useful messages in the log.
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: [email protected]
>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gary Gatten
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 4:58 PM
>>>>> To: '[email protected]'
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Ntop] No data in Netflow on FreeBSD 7.0
>>>>>
>>>>> Sounds like you tried most everything.
>>>>>
>>>>> What does "Plugins>    Netflow>    Statistics" show?
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, have you "Selected" the interface?  "Admin>    Switch NIC" and
>>>>> actually choose your netflow interface?
>>>>>
>>>>> G
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: [email protected]
>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tim Palmer
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 4:34 PM
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> Subject: [Ntop] No data in Netflow on FreeBSD 7.0
>>>>>
>>>>> Good Day,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm trying to get ntop working on a FreeBSD 7.0 amd64 box. I've had
>>>>> problems compiling 3.3.10, so tried 3.4pre3.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm only interested in seeing data on a NetFlow interface. Nothing
>>>>> local
>>>>> is needed. However, I'm seeing similar behavior on eth0, only the
>>>>> Traffic Statistics table on the Summary Traffic page show very many
>>>>> packets dropped by libpcap.
>>>>>
>>>>> Compile and installation work fine. Ntop starts fine, web interface is
>>>>> fully functional. Netflow plugin is enabled and active. But there is
>>>>> only one packet shown for the NetFlow device, no packets dropped by
>>>>> ntop. I *believe* I've tried all ip address configuration options. Most
>>>>> other settings are default. Running in daemon mode does not produce any
>>>>> warnings on the console. Listen port is not default, and I've
>>>>> configured
>>>>> in the web UI, not spec
>>>>>
>>>>> started with {prefix}/bin/ntop -w 81 -u ntop -L -d
>>>>>
>>>>> tcpdump shows data coming in on the port I'm expecting it. Ethereal
>>>>> confirms they are legit netflow/cflow packets.
>>>>>
>>>>> sockstat shows ntop listening on the udp4 port expected.
>>>>>
>>>>> disabling ipfw doesn't help.
>>>>>
>>>>> Files are created in {prefix}/var/ntop/rrd/interfaces/NetFlow-device.2.
>>>>> They are being updated, but only with NANs or 0.000 entries.
>>>>>
>>>>> Netflow statistics page in the web UI shows just the one packet,
>>>>> 56bytes. No dropped flows or other problems.
>>>>>
>>>>> We prefer to compile from source, so haven't tried the port yet.
>>>>>
>>>>> rrdtool is 1.4, compiled from source. Cacti is also on this box, and
>>>>> has
>>>>> no problem w/ rrdtool.
>>>>> perl is 5.10.0
>>>>>
>>>>> flow-capture is also in use on this box (for other devices, on other
>>>>> ports) and is working properly.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm at a loss. If there's more information I can provide, I am most
>>>>> happy to do so.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kernel is custom. I have not yet tried with GENERIC, but try that next.
>>>>>
>>>>> FreeBSD xxx.xxx.xxx 7.0-RELEASE-p12 FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE-p12 #0: Wed Apr
>>>>> 28 17:46:20 EDT 2010
>>>>> [email protected]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/NETMON  amd64
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you very much for your time. I'm sort of hoping this is just
>>>>> something stupid I'm missing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tim Palmer
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