Pick one:

  Wrongo dragon breath...
  Close grasshopper, but no cigar...


Separate the two activities of netFlow in your mind.  THEY DO NOT OVERLAP!

When ntop is acting as a receiver of netFlow data, it receives the packets
on the specified port and stores the data in it's internal structures just
like data collected off another network card.  Hence you switch "NICs" to
report on the netFlow data.

When ntop is acting as a collector of netFlow data, it collects information
from it's network cards and sends that off to some netFlow receiver.  You
can monitor the data ntop has received just like normal, but you can't
monitor the data ntop has sent via netFlow to another device, you have to
use that device to monitor it...

You started ntop ... -i eth0 ...  that's why you only have the two devices,
eth0 and netFlow.  Because that's all you've told ntop to monitor...  how
about ... -i eth0,eth1 ... ???

If you are only using ntop to receive netFlow data, you may have a problem.
IIRC, it won't run without monitoring at least one (real) NIC.  I might be
wrong...  I suppose you could always monitor  the local loopback (-i lo).
Once it's up?  As I've said before, the data collected by netFlow somewhere
else and sent to ntop is presented via the netFlow pseudo-nic.

You're right it won't have session and other detailed data - that's not in
the flows (look at the header files, you'll see what's being "recorded").


-----Burton


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Blake
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 12:09 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Ntop] NetFlow Overview


Hopefully someone can assist my ignorance in regards
to using NTOP as a NetFlow collector.  If not ...
thats cool!  Just thought I would ask.  I just have a
few basic questions, which are listed below after I
describe my environment.

-------------------------
My environment explained;
-------------------------

###########
NTOP SERVER
###########

./ntop -a ntop.access.log -i eth0 -w 10.4.4.51:3999 -m
10.0.0.0/255.0.0.0,192.168.0.0/255.255.0.0 -p
protocol.list -E -P /eth1/ -u ntopuser -d

RH7.3
ntop-02-09-25
Dell Pentium PC -- 2 NICS
ETH0 10.4.4.51 (web server listening)
ETH1 1.1.1.1 (Cisco switch port monitoring router
port)
NetFLow pluging: enabled
Local Collector UDP port: 2055

Interface Name NetFlow Enabled
eth0 Yes
NetFlow-device No

Flow Statistics
# Pkts Rcvd.value 366
# Flows Rcvd.value 10,980
# Flow with Bad Version 0
Flow Senders 192.168.2.1 [366 pkts]


#############
Router Config
#############

ip flow-export source FastEthernet0/0
ip flow-export version 5
ip flow-export destination 10.4.4.51 2055

interface FastEthernet0/0
 description <<GLASRTR01 User/Admin/Server Secondary
IP's>>
 ip address 10.4.4.1 255.255.254.0 secondary
 ip address 10.6.16.1 255.255.252.0 secondary
 ip address 192.168.1.5 255.255.255.0 secondary
 ip address 192.168.2.1 255.255.255.0
 ip directed-broadcast
 ip route-cache flow
 speed 100
 full-duplex

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Questions:
----------

1) I have 2 options when switching NIC's; eth0 and
NetFLow-device.  Im assuming eth1 (which is the
monitoring port) is labeled NetFlow-device because
since NetFlow is enabled ... it is the interface which
can export NetFLow to another collector.  However, my
question is what interface should I select to view
NetFLow data received from the router I am sending
NetFlow data?  eth0 (ip 10.4.4.51)?

2) Say for instance you are only using NTOP to view
NetFlow data received from a router.  What & where
would you see NetFlow data presented in NTOP?  Im
assuming I will not see sessions because NetFlow data
are sessions which have ended?  It seems like I should
see everything else however it appears as though I am
only seeing broadcasts NTOP is able to pickup off that
port on the switch (and me connecting to it via 80 and
22).  Hopefully I explained this so that you can
understand my question.




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