I didn't say it couldn't be used for accounting/billing - there are people
using the 2.1.x series with it's sql database for that.

Any post processing you do to the rrd database files would be custom code,
so I can't talk to whether it's better or worse for a particular process.

ntop's cvs is at 2.1.58pre about to roll to .90, which would be the pre-test
for 2.2.  There are no planned feature additions prior to 2.2, just bug
fixes and minor tweaks.

-----Burton

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Subject: RE: [Ntop] Ntop for accounting?


If I am understanding you correctly, ntop, as it stands now, is not
suitable for accounting/billing purposes.

An upcoming release (2.2) will provide historical data as well as
real-time monitoring.

I was using NeTraMet for traffic metering but it required custom code to
keep track of traffic totals and I found that it wasn't nearly reliable
enough for billing purposes (it has a bad habit of re-using it's flow
index numbers. Without unique indexes it makes it very hard to determine
if a flow is new or just a continuation of a previous flow).

On the topic of documentation, once nTop has the functionality we need I
will be happy to contribute a mini-how-to on using it for accounting and
billing purposes.

Is the 2.2 release branch approaching a state in CVS that it can be
tested and used?

John Lange

On Tue, 2003-02-25 at 12:06, Burton M. Strauss III wrote:
> You need to read a bit deeper & broader.
>
> netFlow (Cisco) and sFlow (http://www.sflow.org) are protocols for
> collecting (reduced format) data about network traffic.
>
> ntop can act as a sFlow/netFlow collector, forwarding data to another
host.
> nProbe is a dedicated netFlow collector box.
>
> ntop can also process these flows (as well as generate them) - or it can
> collect richer information from the raw network packets.  ntop's strength
is
> the presentation of the data in a variety of ways.
>
> With the upcoming 2.2 release, you can access historical (time series)
data
> from the rrd databases in an XML format.  Once you have that you should be
> able to do anything you require.  There are some messages in the back
> traffic that show this - look for rrdtool dump (remember, you can search
the
> list at gmane, http://www.gmane.org).
>
> If you're interested in fee based services - implementation, custom data
> reduction, etc., contact me off-list.
>
> If you're interested in contributing documentation to the community, we'd
> love to have it - I've always volunteered to edit and post anything people
> contribute.
>
> -----Burton
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> -----Original Message-----
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> Lange
> Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 11:13 AM
> To: ntop
> Subject: [Ntop] Ntop for accounting?
>
>
> Ntop seems like a wonderful tool for monitoring network traffic but my
> understanding of it's design is that it is intended to be used as a
> "real time" tool, not really for long term accounting and billing
> purposes.
>
> After spending several hours reading through the web site I can find
> several mentions of billing/accounting solutions using things like
> "Netflow", or "sprobe" and the like. However, the site is mostly the
> typical wishy-washy marking/white-paper type stuff and there is almost
> no solid information on actual implementation.
>
> We have a single linux box that takes a mirror port from our main
> internet link. We need to monitor and report on traffic for accounting
> and billing purposes.
>
> What is the solution? Can someone give me a bit of detail on how the
> solution would look?
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
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