Hi Jose, thanks for your help!

Here we have all kinds of switchs, since unknown :) to cisco 2900. I 
already had a situation here where the problem was a loop and I fixed. 
But I already had a situation where I found a computer with almost 1000 
diferent viruses creating a big storm of ARP, ipv6 and nbt. So, the 
point here is not about a loop or virus, but Why the ntop  show me just 
300 pps and not 11 000 pps? My intention is: how to detect a broadcast 
storm with ntop?

PS: in this moment, the storm is over, so if was a loop or don't, I 
can't fix it :)

I really thank you for help!

Jeronimo

José Queiroz escreveu:
> Hi Jerônimo,
>
> There is no reason a computer could send 11K packets of ARP, except
> there is a switching loop there.
>
> Say, do you use in your network those small and cheap switches, said,
> DLink DES-1008, Encore ENL-901NWay, etc.?
>
> When these devices are installed directly on user's rooms, it's easy
> that the users change the way the cables are mounted, and create
> switching loops. I passed this problem myself...
>
> PS/Off-topic: Sou do Rio de Janeiro, se quiser posso te ajudar a
> identificar o ponto onde está acontecendo esse loop.
>
> 2008/4/14, Jerônimo Bezerra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>   
>> Hello All,
>>
>>  i'm sorry for comma, my intention was tell 11 000 pps :) Follow my scenario:
>>
>>  80 VLANs and each of then with 100 until 600 computers;
>>  my ntop's NIC is tagged to 3 vlans ( 14, 145, 137 );
>>  some unmanaged switchs, some hubs, e some managed switchs on each vlan;
>>
>>  In one vlan ( 145 ) one computer was sending 11 000 pps of ARP
>>  broadcast, and my ntop was telling me just 300 pps. That's my question:
>>  why 300 pps?
>>  My core router was 99% of CPU.
>>
>>  Jeronimo
>>
>>  Graeme Fowler escreveu:
>>
>>     
>>> On Mon, 2008-04-14 at 11:06 -0500, Gary Gatten wrote:
>>>       
>>  >
>>  >> 11 or 100 pps is nothing - not even close to anything to worry about.  A 
>> 10Mb Ethernet "network" does over 19K pps.  Most broadcast storm control 
>> features default to several thousand pps, so really - 11 or a 100 is a tiny 
>> fraction of a percent or available bandwidth.
>>  >>
>>  >
>>  > I think Jeronimo's email ost a bit in translation - it was 11kpps,
>>  > phrased as "11.000 pps". Not every written language uses a comma as a
>>  > decimal separator for positive powers of ten :)
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >> Switching Loops don't cause broadcast storms.  If there is a loop it 
>> won't be found looking for excessive broadcasts.
>>  >>
>>  >
>>  > Loops in ethernet networks cause all manner of lunacy, because they
>>  > amplify anything that isn't unicast. After some time (depending on
>>  > hardware), they amplify unicast too as the L2 devices involved age out
>>  > or conflict out their MAC tables; once most switches see MAC addresses
>>  > on several ports they can get a little confused!
>>  >
>>  > Jeronimo - you gave no indication of your network topology, and only a
>>  > vague description of what happened so it's tricky to tell you why you
>>  > didn't see the problem with ntop.
>>  >
>>  > Graeme
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