This is for my home infrastructure. Office 365 isn't sold/supported directly by 
Microsoft here in Australia which diminishes the allure, and in any case, I 
find it helpful to have a level of "hands on" with product (since moving into 
architecture a few years ago, it's hard to get that during the day)

Cheers
Ken

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Bill Humphries
Sent: Friday, 14 June 2013 1:39 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: "cloud spam filtering" WAS RE: [NTSysADM] RE: FortiGate FortiMail 
email security boxes - feedback?

Why not just look at moving them to office 365 for 4 bucks a mailbox and have 
MS do the antispam?  Any cloud spam service will cost almost that much.

Bill

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ken Schaefer
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 9:06 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: "cloud spam filtering" WAS RE: [NTSysADM] RE: FortiGate FortiMail 
email security boxes - feedback?

No quarantine option with those guys AFAIK

Which does bring up a question I've been meaning to ask. For a home user (or 
very small business), does anyone have recommendations for a mail filtering 
service? Was going to sign up with Postini, but they don't seem to deal direct 
anymore (and are pushing people to Google Apps now anyway).

It's only for a few mailboxes (~3), but two domains (one is aliased to the 
other), so would prefer not to have to pay for two separate domains. Needs to 
have a viewer for quarantined items, and preferably a store-n-forward in case I 
have an issues with the home mailserver.

Cheers
Ken

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of J- P
Sent: Friday, 14 June 2013 5:34 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] RE: FortiGate FortiMail email security boxes - feedback?

Not sure how many domains you are filtering for, but you may want to have 
someone else filter 50 bucks a year i think

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Jean-Paul Natola

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From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: FortiGate FortiMail email security boxes - feedback?
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 19:22:51 +0000
Ok, I just looked and the appropriate Barracuda VM - Barracuda Spam & Virus 
Firewall Vx V300 - is $1500-ish USD.

That's what I get for not checking before writing. They've diversified the 
options since I last looked 3-4 months ago.

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Phil Brutsche
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Phil Brutsche
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 1:53 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: FortiGate FortiMail email security boxes - feedback?

The Barracuda Networks VMs are $$$$$ - $3k USD or so for the VM.

For comparison, the unlimited user FortiMail VM is $1500-ish USD and the 
SonicWALL VM was $800-ish USD for 50 users.

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Phil Brutsche
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of N Parr
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 12:42 PM
To: '[email protected]'
Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: FortiGate FortiMail email security boxes - feedback?

I've been running Barracuda's appliance in a VM for a couple years now and it 
does everything you require.  But I don't allow user access to quarantine.   I 
set it in global mode and generally forget about it.  Once you get it tuned 
right for spam and ham it's pretty dead on.  Every week or so I'll take a look 
at my quarantine just to see if anything legit has been caught.  I guess you 
could give users access to a shared mailbox that contains the quarantine.

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Phil Brutsche
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 12:15 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [NTSysADM] FortiGate FortiMail email security boxes - feedback?

We are currently using a Dell SonicWALL Email Security VMware appliance and The 
Boss Man(tm) would like to evaluate alternatives.

One of the appliances that meets our requirements is the FortiGate FortiMail 
Email Security Appliance.

Is anyone using one of these boxes, and, if you are, do you have any feedback 
you would like to share?

In case anyone is wondering, these are the requirements:
* LDAP support (believe it or not, there are actually boxes that don't support 
that!)
* Available as a virtual appliance so we can run it in the VMware cluster
* Support for quarantine delegation - we need to give specific users access to 
the quarantine folder for distribution groups

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Phil Brutsche
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>


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