My apologies.  :)

 - WJR


On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 7:55 AM, Webster <[email protected]> wrote:

>  i have no issues with any dc being virtual.  some of my old(er)
> colleagues in it do.  same thinking that some have about a ts/rds/xa server
> should not be virtualized.  some people in it also syill believe the domain
> is the security boundary in ad.
>
>  some people never learn (dual meaning intended).
>
>  webster (back from spain, germany, england and denmark.  pay attention
> wjr!)
>
>
> Sent from my iPad so please excuse all the typos
>
> On Jun 19, 2013, at 2:42 AM, "John Matteson" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>   Why should a DC not be a virtual server? Are you talking a run of the
> mill DC/GC? Or are you talking about a DC/FSMO box?****
>
> ** **
>
> John M.****
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* [email protected] [
> mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
> Behalf Of *Webster
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 18, 2013 9:00 PM
> *To:* <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: [NTSysADM] RE: Finding AD groups with legacy members****
>
> ** **
>
> i have already shot down a few of the findings:****
>
> ** **
>
> every fsmo role needs to be on a separate dc (thanks brian for including
> this non issue in your book)****
>
> must be on dfl/ffl 2008+ before you can migrate to win7****
>
> a dc should not be virtualized (actually still fighting w/ the head of it
> on this one)****
>
> and a few more stupid non issues****
>
> ** **
>
> this one finding of legacy members in groups is one i can't convince them
> may not be worth the effort.  they have many groups with many 1000s of
> members, they (the consultants who did the assessment) modify group
> membership frequently and believe it has a negative impact on bandwidth and
> replication traffic.****
>
> ** **
>
> my overall task on this project is to get all 3 of their forests to server
> 2012 dfl/ffl [1] satisfy the internal security team.****
>
> ** **
>
> webster****
>
>
> 1.  before i can bring the first 2012 dc online, i have to prove in their
> lab that i can do a full forest recovery for all 3 forests!****
>
>
> Sent from my iPad so please excuse all the typos****
>
>
> On Jun 18, 2013, at 5:12 PM, "Brian Desmond" <[email protected]>
> wrote:****
>
>  *I’d triage whether this is actually really necessary before you go and
> do this. I’ve had customers do this before – you have to build something to
> suck out the membership and then reload it. *****
>
> * *****
>
> *Thanks,*****
>
> *Brian Desmond*****
>
> *[email protected]*****
>
> * *****
>
> *w – 312.625.1438 | c – 312.731.3132*****
>
> * *****
>
> *From:* [email protected] [
> mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
> Behalf Of *Webster
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 18, 2013 6:17 PM
> *To:* <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* [NTSysADM] Finding AD groups with legacy members****
>
>  ****
>
> Current project had a consulting group come in and do an AD Assessment.
> One of their findings was that they have many groups with almost 5,000
> members.   Most of the groups were created and users added pre 2003 DFL/FFL
> .  Their conclusion was the legacy members need to be removed and readded
> to the groups to enable LVR for each group member.****
>
>  ****
>
> Whether you or I agree with this conclusion, I have been tasked with
> finding which of their almost 24,000 groups have Legacy members.  I know I
> can do this:****
>
>  ****
>
>
> C:\>repadmin /showobjmeta shc-dc
> "cn=administrators,cn=builtin,dc=shc,dc=org"****
>
> 17 entries.****
>
>  ****
>
> <snip>
> 21 entries.
> Type             Attribute                ****
>
> LEGACY        member
> LEGACY        member
> LEGACY        member
> LEGACY        member
> LEGACY        member
> LEGACY        member
> LEGACY        member
> LEGACY        member
> LEGACY        member
> LEGACY        member
> LEGACY        member
> LEGACY        member
> PRESENT       member****
>
> PRESENT       member ****
>
> PRESENT       member ****
>
> PRESENT       member ****
>
> PRESENT       member ****
>
> PRESENT       member ****
>
> PRESENT       member ****
>
> PRESENT       member ****
>
> PRESENT       member ****
>
>
> C:\>****
>
>  ****
>
>  ****
>
> I could run that command 24,000 times but it would be nice to automate
> that.  BUT, all the DCs are 2003 so I don't have access to using the
> Microsoft PowerShell AD stuff.  My GoogleFU is failing me and I have not
> found a script that finds AD Security groups with Legacy members.****
>
>  ****
>
> Any hints, clues, tips or help from the peanut gallery?****
>
>  ****
>
> Once I know all the groups with Legacy members, then my next task is the
> removing of the Legacy members and adding them back in so LVR is enabled (I
> did find a script for that).****
>
>  ****
>
> Once that is done, I can begin the process of moving them to Server 2012
> DCs and all those benefits.****
>
>  ****
>
> Thanks****
>
>  ****
>
>  ****
>
> Carl Webster****
>
> Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional****
>
> http://www.CarlWebster.com <http://www.carlwebster.com/>****
>
>

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