yes , i meant 0- watching the NHL playoffs not thinking straight LOL the server has 24 gb and im pretty sure I assigned 12 GB to Exchange and I can still bumpo the server to 64gb
" The real issue is going to be disk performance, personally. Regards, So dont make the guest a file server?? :) I should still be ok making it a print, dns or dfsr member? So in retrospect, i should get a synology and not deal with a new windows server? Jean-Paul Natola From: [email protected] Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 23:09:19 -0400 Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server To: [email protected] RAID0? I hope you mean RAID1. :) >>realistically 6-8 TB and maybe another 10 to 20 users. in the next 5 yrs Get yourself a Synology device or a QNap. You can get 8-10TB well within your budget. I love the Synology devices, and they'll support iSCSI or NAS >>on a seperate note, what is your personal opinion on hyper-V host running >>guest running Exchange, should the V-host not run any other guest other than >>Exchange? Current exchange: 2013; 60 users 50 GB Store If your storage is robust, and the CPUs are robust (and yours appear to be) then there's no reason why you couldn't run other guests on that host. How much RAM are you giving to Exchange? I would expect 6-8GB. Even at 10GB, you should have no real issues with other guests in an environment that size. The real issue is going to be disk performance, personally. Regards, ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations & Information Security) for the SMB market… On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 10:51 PM, J- P <[email protected]> wrote: Just the man I was waiting for, you have guided me on the winnt list since i was in school- realistically 6-8 TB and maybe another 10 to 20 users. in the next 5 yrs As I mentioned they have been on a single raid 0 of 750GB for the last 5 yrs for 60 users- the nature of the business (event productions) doesnt increase much on internal (computer users) - Just trying to find a strong reason to either go NAS or Server Thanks again ASB Jean-Paul Natola From: [email protected] Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 22:32:49 -0400 Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server To: [email protected] What do you think will be the usage in 3-5 years? If that's what you're planning for, then you need to have some idea of what that is. Frankly, for that size environment, anything over 18-24 months is pure speculation, and you'll spend more wisely by planning for only 2 years rather than 5. Things change. Especially when you're talking a budget of $5K ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations & Information Security) for the SMB market… On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 9:02 PM, J- P <[email protected]> wrote: Already planned, VM 2003dc will become 2012 DC and current "all in one" 2003 dc will become 2012 DC (already have the Cals) that will give me 2 dedicated 2012 DC's Looking to stay under 5k, and I have no problems with Dell outlet r510 or r710 - just trying to decide NAS or Server, and of course I dont need to populate all the drive bays right away, heck there used to a 7200k sata1 mirror- Jean-Paul Natola From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 20:51:19 -0400 I really hate to do this but you will first want to start with a budget and then try to fit what fits into that budget. As an aside you might want to look at upgrading to at least 2008 R2 or better 2012, have at least 2 DC's, and get all the file/print off the DC when you go this route. Jon From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 20:43:30 -0400 Company background, 30 yrs old, started with 2 guys, went to to computers in the late 90's had about 20 users, 1 W2k server and a 120 gb SNAP- Fast forward , 2008, 30 users, sql 2005 DB (consultant at the time ) installs a new 1U 2003 80gb raid server for sql DB , and another 1U server with a mirrored 750gb drive , serving as DC/File/Print/DNS Server. Fast Forward 2013 - single site , single domain 1. ESXi hosting a VM 2008 Citrix TS, and a VM 2003 DC (no storage really available) 1. Windows 2012 Hyper-V host, SAS mirror for host OS, raid 10 2TB for guest OS', currently one guest, 2012 with Exchange 2013. Now there are 60 users, (still using original 2003 for File Print and DNS) and storage demands, as we all know are increasing exponentially, so I get the "we need more storage " so this begs the question, new server 2u (R710 maybe) , or a NAS 8 or 12 bays maybe- As an aside, majority of the users use basic office files, but there are about a dozen that deal with CAD Audio and Video I want this solution to be good for 3-5 years Jean-Paul Natola
