My experience as well.... John W. Cook Network Operations Manager Partnership For Strong Families 5950 NW 1st Place Gainesville, Fl 32607 Office (352) 244-1610 Cell (352) 215-6944 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Lum Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 9:53 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server Unless it's a Buffalo Terrastation.... :( (or at least the version I have which is ~4 yrs old). From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Guyer, Don Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 6:37 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server CIFS is the share from the storage (NAS/SAN) perspective. Once the server is connected to the CIFS share, you then apply NTFS perms to it, just like you would any folder/share. Regards, Don Guyer Catholic Health East - Information Technology Enterprise Directory & Messaging Services 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa 19073 email: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Office: 610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440 For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the helpdesk @ 610-492-3839. [Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: InfoService-Logo240] From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Richard McClary Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 9:30 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server They may call it "CIFS" rather than "NTSF" -- richard From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]]<mailto:[mailto:[email protected]]> On Behalf Of Jonathan Link Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 8:18 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server Do they have NTFS permissions on those things, yet? That's probably a major feature to be looking for... On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 9:11 AM, John Cook <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Be mindful of the fact that while some claim AD support they don't necessarily execute it well. Buffalo Terrastations come to mind..... YMMV John W. Cook Network Operations Manager Partnership For Strong Families 5950 NW 1st Place Gainesville, Fl 32607 Office (352) 244-1610<tel:%28352%29%20244-1610> Cell (352) 215-6944<tel:%28352%29%20215-6944> MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Kennedy, Jim Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 8:57 AM To: '[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>' Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server And that it supports AD for permissions. From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of J- P Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 8:56 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server So it seems like more folks ar3 leaning to the NAS, any particular features I should be looking for? Aside from ensuring supports X number of connections? ________________________________ From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 07:49:06 -0400 print yes, file is the other question, if I go to NAS do I "need" windows file server? wouldn't the NAS take care of that? The NAS box should take care of shares, etc. internally. But make sure it has the capacity to support the number of planned connections. John M. From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of J- P Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 9:19 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server print yes, file is the other question, if I go to NAS do I "need" windows file server? wouldn't the NAS take care of that? The Exchange is a guest on the 2012 hyper-v host, and there is nothing else on it, but in my research i see both negative and positive feedback regarding loading another guest- In theory being that 2012 allows/gives 2 guest 2012's with a single license, I could easily spin up another guest and make it a DC , DHCP, DNS , etc... server. Jean-Paul Natola ________________________________ From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 21:07:56 -0400 Are you migrating the file/print to another machine? I am hoping you don't have anything on the Exchange server but Exchange. Jon ________________________________ From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 21:02:47 -0400 Already planned, VM 2003dc will become 2012 DC and current "all in one" 2003 dc will become 2012 DC (already have the Cals) that will give me 2 dedicated 2012 DC's Looking to stay under 5k, and I have no problems with Dell outlet r510 or r710 - just trying to decide NAS or Server, and of course I dont need to populate all the drive bays right away, heck there used to a 7200k sata1 mirror- Jean-Paul Natola ________________________________ From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 20:51:19 -0400 I really hate to do this but you will first want to start with a budget and then try to fit what fits into that budget. As an aside you might want to look at upgrading to at least 2008 R2 or better 2012, have at least 2 DC's, and get all the file/print off the DC when you go this route. Jon ________________________________ From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 20:43:30 -0400 Company background, 30 yrs old, started with 2 guys, went to to computers in the late 90's had about 20 users, 1 W2k server and a 120 gb SNAP- Fast forward , 2008, 30 users, sql 2005 DB (consultant at the time ) installs a new 1U 2003 80gb raid server for sql DB , and another 1U server with a mirrored 750gb drive , serving as DC/File/Print/DNS Server. Fast Forward 2013 - single site , single domain 1. ESXi hosting a VM 2008 Citrix TS, and a VM 2003 DC (no storage really available) 1. Windows 2012 Hyper-V host, SAS mirror for host OS, raid 10 2TB for guest OS', currently one guest, 2012 with Exchange 2013. Now there are 60 users, (still using original 2003 for File Print and DNS) and storage demands, as we all know are increasing exponentially, so I get the "we need more storage " so this begs the question, new server 2u (R710 maybe) , or a NAS 8 or 12 bays maybe- As an aside, majority of the users use basic office files, but there are about a dozen that deal with CAD Audio and Video I want this solution to be good for 3-5 years Jean-Paul Natola ________________________________ CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. 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