OK - let's forget the theoreticals about what the Helpdesk should do or not do 
- you have specific requirements. Let's assume they are correct.

Here are some questions (space left for answers):

What specifically have you done already that is "not acting as expected" (your 
words)?

Have you examined the specific ACLs on the user objects that the delegation 
wizard produced & what are they?

Do they fit what you expect?

Speculation: maybe a deny ACE would do what you need - but let's not get ahead 
of ourselves.

Cheers
Ken

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Liby Philip Mathew
Sent: Wednesday, 7 August 2013 11:55 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: Delegation of privileges to helpdesk security group 
except password reset.

Z,
The basic task of help desk is to reset the password.  But, in my case it is 
the other way.  That is the reason I have mentioned "weird situation".  I have 
delegated the requirement.  But it is not acting as expected.  I will wait for 
some time for the replication to complete as the domain is spread between few 
sites which are across different continents.


Regards
Liby Philip Mathew

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ziots, Edward
Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 16:32
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: Delegation of privileges to helpdesk security group 
except password reset.

I believe you might need to use Dscalcs to do this but I would start with the 
delegation of control wizard first on a test OU and then see the results. But 
the guidance in the thread is correct the users and groups should be separated 
out, but I don't see why the helpdesk should not be able to reset the password 
especially if you are auditing the accounts for password reset as apart of your 
controls (so that the helpdesk folks aren't blindly resetting accounts and then 
logging on as those users and doing nefarious stuff).

HTH
Z

Edward E. Ziots, CISSP, CISA, Security +, Network +
Security Engineer
Lifespan Organization
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I agree on that.  But how?

Regards
Liby Philip Mathew

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Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: Delegation of privileges to helpdesk security group 
except password reset.

Don't think you want to do this at the root but, at the OU level, where 
User/Computer accounts and Groups reside.

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[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Liby Philip Mathew
Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 6:54 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [NTSysADM] Delegation of privileges to helpdesk security group except 
password reset.

Hi,
We have a weird situation in which helpdesk shouldn't reset the password.  But, 
they should be having privileges such add/remove/modify, user/group/OU/move 
objects between OU etc.
What is the best way to delegate this permissions to helpdesk security group at 
the root of the domain?
Any help appreciated.
Thanks
Liby
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