The bank should be able to tell the account holder what method was used to 
transfer the money (instruction received via internet banking site, instruction 
received via fax, instruction received via telephone banking, instruction 
received in-branch etc.).

Assuming they confirm it was via internet banking, then you can narrow things 
down. E.g. what malware was on the machine? We can look at the typical 
capabilities etc. that this has

Cheers
Ken

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of James Hill
Sent: Friday, 27 September 2013 6:29 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Bank funds stolen without access to rsa token, anyone 
heard of that?

As far as I'm aware, from the actual bank account.  I agree on the missing info 
but to be honest I'm not sure that any of the innocent parties involve know 
what that is.

The bank hasn't mentioned any other method being use.  They are persistent with 
pointing the finger at malware but provide no explanation on how this was 
possible when a token id was required.

This person did have malware on their computer at the time.  There are logs 
from various anti-malware products that were run afterwards that prove that.

James.
From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Andrew S. Baker
Sent: Friday, 27 September 2013 12:34 AM
To: ntsysadm
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Bank funds stolen without access to rsa token, anyone 
heard of that?

There is missing info in this story, I am sure.

Were the funds actually transferred via the bank account, or via a debit card 
(or alternative)?






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On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 3:24 AM, James Hill 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I've recently been in discussion with someone who has had money stolen from 
their bank account.  I have seen examples of this in the past when the only 
authentication in place was a password.  But in this case they had two factor 
authentication.  A password and an RSA token.

They had funds transferred to an overseas bank account.  For this to occur it 
would normally require logging on to the internet banking system with the 
password and token code.  Then enter the external transfer area, enter the 
details then enter in the current token code.

Has anyone ever heard of this occurring?

James.


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