Ah - let me rephrase to see if I understand you correctly.

Keep all of our WAPs on the same frequency/band, but vary radio power
so that there isn't overlap between them.

Does that sound correct?

That would seem to make a comprehensive site survey pretty much mandatory.

Kurt

On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 8:19 PM, Micheal Espinola Jr
<[email protected]> wrote:
> By stacking, I mean using the same channel (co-channeling) with the same
> SSID - with adequate signal dBm buffering in-between (preferably at least 30
> dBm) - just as you would when avoiding other wifi overlapping networks - but
> now you are doing it to your own APs.  You can still achieve excellent
> bandwidth with proper stacking.
>
> I think Meru refers to this methodology within their technology architecture
> as "layering".  I've always called it stacking - but that might be
> old-school - I dunno.  I think some people also call it channel blanketing.
> Or, maybe I'm just in my own world on this one.  You usually see protocol
> channel-stacking/blanketing/whatever in AP dense environments, like hotels,
> where the logistics of 1-6-11 are difficult to map in a 3-dimensional space
> - so you stack areas all on the same channel - giving an appropriate
> distance or power tweak in order to balance the dBm buffer between them.
> instead of 1-6-11 per AP, you do it per stacked area, with the same 1-6-11
> methodology used in an area-wide scale.
>
> 1-6-11 per AP is of much easier, as so much of possible interference issues
> have no effect and don't matter.  But, channel stacking can work perfectly
> fine too when implemented properly.
>
> HTH and doesn't sound too ridiculous.
>
> --
> Espi
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 7:46 PM, Kurt Buff <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> I presume by channel stacking you mean selecting channels for our WAPs
>> that have least overlap with the closest of their WAPs - say, if
>> they're doing 11, make sure that the closest ones we have are either 6
>> or 1, etc.
>>
>> Am I understanding you correctly?
>>
>> Kurt
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 7:11 PM, Jon Harris <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > If you have dual band Wi-Fi's on the systems and if the Cisco units
>> > support
>> > it you might want to try switching to A instead of using B, G or N.  I
>> > know
>> > a lot of if's but it should help and your neighbors would most likely
>> > not
>> > even see your signal (A band anyway).  Other than that go with Micheal's
>> > suggestion start the conversation with the building owner and get them
>> > involved before you go to the neighbors.
>> >
>> > Jon
>> >
>> >> Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2013 18:05:32 -0800
>> >> Subject: [NTSysADM] wifi in multitenant buildings?
>> >> From: [email protected]
>> >> To: [email protected]
>> >
>> >>
>> >> All,
>> >>
>> >> I can't remember if I've asked this before - it's certainly been on my
>> >> mind a bit lately.
>> >>
>> >> Until recently, we've been the main tenant in a medium-sized three
>> >> story building, taking up most of the first floor, and all of the
>> >> second floor, with a tenant occupying the north half of the third
>> >> floor. (it's about 190,000sqft, of which we occupy around
>> >> 100,000sqft).
>> >>
>> >> Now there are new tenants on the 1st floor, and the tenant on the
>> >> third floor has expanded to both sides of the building, and they've
>> >> each mounted their own wifi infrastructure - very understandable.
>> >>
>> >> However, the tenant on the 3rd floor seems to have completely revamped
>> >> their infrastructure (they used to use Cisco) and have turned up the
>> >> power quite a bit on their new Meraki units, and I'm starting get
>> >> reports of our staff having a hard time connecting to our WAPs.
>> >>
>> >> We have 17 Cisco units (15x1240AG, and two newer units - I can't
>> >> remember which model off the top of my head).
>> >>
>> >> It looks as if the 3rd floor tenant has a minimum of 9 Meraki units on
>> >> the South side of the building - I haven't yet surveyed the North
>> >> side.
>> >>
>> >> I'm looking online for strategies for managing wireless in this kind
>> >> of environment, and not seeing much - probably using the wrong search
>> >> terms.
>> >>
>> >> Aside from working with the landlord (which I plan on doing once I
>> >> have a bit more understanding under my belt), what strategies
>> >> (technical and business) have you seen employed to make such an
>> >> environment "livable"?
>> >>
>> >> I'm pretty sure that simply turning up the power on our WAPs isn't
>> >> going to be a winning strategy - it's probably just start a wifi war,
>> >> and I'd prefer to avoid that.
>> >>
>> >> Kurt
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
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