A couple of thoughts:
A 10 man team will be replaced with a 1 man team. And that 1 person will 
probably be 18 making $15/hour.
Isn't that what has been happening for 30+ years? We used to have lots of 
people assembling PCs, help desk staff going out to add peripherals, or swap a 
NIC or whatever. None of that happens anymore.

You used to have one engineer to manage just a dozen servers, or a directory 
with a few hundred objects. Now engineers can manage far more.

Yet, at the same time, continued increases in computing power, storage and 
network bandwidth (at falling unit cost) have enabled business, government and 
other organisations to continue to find new and innovative ways to harness that 
underlying infrastructure to produce new products, new services, new ways of 
doing research and so on.

All you are seeing is the continued disappearance of the low value work at the 
bottom of the food chain. IT, like *every other facet of business* will see 
vendors look to commoditise low value, repeatable, well understood problem 
domains.

But that doesn't mean IT will disappear, or that the jobs will. They'll migrate 
to other areas, as people and organisations find new ways to use their IT to do 
things that actually make money. Basic infrastructure services are 
commoditised. Basic utility services are commoditised. Basic programming is 
commoditised. Yet every other day you see new hardware on the market, new 
software on the market, new business models on the market and so on. Someone's 
got to come up with all of this, and someone's got to make it happen.

As for my personal experience, the bank I work on has more servers, and more 
reliance on IT than ever before. That doesn't mean we want to keep a fleet of 
desktop support people hovering around the place. We need more people who can 
architect the next great thing in wealth management or institutional banking, 
so that we can make money. And people to ensure that it goes in in a 
supportable, maintainable way.

I can picture this on CNN "15,000 companies got hacked today when Amazon's 
cloud service got compromised. An estimated 250,000,000 US citizens effected.'

And this isn't happening today? Amazon might provide a single point-of-failure. 
But they're probably harder to crack than lots of smaller orgs today. And think 
about the threat landscape in 5 or 10 years from now - it's going to be even 
more brutal, and many "do it yourself" shops - even medium and large size 
organisations are unprepared today, let alone for what's coming down the track. 
Stories like this abound: http://www.thesecurityblogger.com/?p=1903
Most large orgs I've worked at are operationally immature - documentation and 
processes, approvals etc. don't exist. The technical staff there think they're 
pretty good, because they can get things done "quicker and faster" than an 
outsourcer can. But typically this is at the expense of proper governance, 
auditability and accountability. It's a landscape ripe for exploit. Typically 
MSPs at least claim to institute more operationally mature processes.

Cheers
Ken

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Jon D
Sent: Friday, 15 November 2013 5:42 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Bye Citrix

Yeah, I agree with what everyone here is saying.
My guess is we're 1 major hack away from the cloud going up in dust.

I can picture this on CNN "15,000 companies got hacked today when Amazon's 
cloud service got compromised. An estimated 250,000,000 US citizens effected.'





On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 1:13 PM, Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Everything comes in waves.  Contraction and expansion, centralizing, 
decentralizing, cloud, on-prem.

Plus, there are tons of organizations that are so far behind the curve that 
there will be plenty of stuff to do out there, anyway.

Joe Heaton
Enterprise Server Support
CA Department of Fish and Wildlife
1807 13th Street, Suite 201
Sacramento, CA  95811
Desk:  (916) 323-1284<tel:%28916%29%20323-1284>

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] 
On Behalf Of Jon D
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 4:54 AM

To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Bye Citrix

Makes me second guess bothering with getting a masters degree in IT, or more 
certifications.
Sounds like IT might not be around very much in 10 years.

If the users Desktop is in the cloud, and their data is in the cloud, what's 
left to do?
You're not going to have a few servers on-site and a few in the cloud, it will 
be all or nothing.
At least in 10 years, not right away.
A 10 man team will be replaced with a 1 man team. And that 1 person will 
probably be 18 making $15/hour.

So.... Maybe we can all change to computer programming?

.


On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 5:11 AM, Manuel Santos 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
This reminds me of a music from REM - 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0GFRcFm-aY and I don't feel fine with it...

2013/11/14 J- P <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
And who will answer the telephone when user-x  has an issue?
and more importantly- who else will have access to the VPC- NSA/CIA/DHS?

still not sold- 50 per months x 36 =  1800-  i can get  a nice optiplex or hp 
with office for less

just my .02











Jean-Paul Natola

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From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [NTSysADM] Bye Citrix
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 20:18:12 -0800

Just released today!



http://aws.typepad.com/aws/2013/11/amazon-workspaces-desktop-computing-in-the-cloud.html




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