I think to answer your question specifically towards licensing, you will need 
either an enterprise or datacenter license on your DR vmhost.  The OEM key for 
your physical host is not transferable to the DR vmhost server.  The enterprise 
or datacenter license for your DR vmhost is not transferrable to your physical 
server.

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Nigel Parker
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2014 6:12 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Virtual machines

Just to add
We have backup exec that can create the virtual images we think we may use this 
once per week, then any missing files etc can be restored from the nightly 
backup

Nigel Parker
Systems Engineer
Ultraframe (UK) Ltd
Tel:   01200 452329
Fax:   01200 452201
Web:   www.ultraframe.com<http://www.ultraframe.com>
Email: mailto:[email protected]

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jon Harris
Sent: 28 January 2014 11:19
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Virtual machines

Okay what you are talking about is taking a physical machine that crashes.  You 
take your backup restore to a Virtual machine correct???

Jon

________________________________
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Virtual machines
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 11:12:59 +0000
From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Hi
At the moment we have nothing in place, So am just looking at options available,
The hope was we could restore the faulty machine to Hyperv host that will have 
2008 server on and run them for upto 3 days, until the old hardware was fixed, 
or a replacement ordered we have a DR contract that could run the machine for 
longer but this will be a short term

Nigel Parker
Systems Engineer
Ultraframe (UK) Ltd
Tel:   01200 452329
Fax:   01200 452201
Web:   www.ultraframe.com<http://www.ultraframe.com>
Email: mailto:[email protected]

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jon Harris
Sent: 28 January 2014 10:21
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Virtual machines

Then how are you licensing your DR machine?

Jon

________________________________
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Virtual machines
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 10:14:07 +0000
From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Hi
Your first Option is correct
The Dr machine will only be live when the Physical machine is down; due to 
hardware failure Of course because we are buying the license as an oem with the 
server I believe if the motherboard fails then the license also is dead! And 
not transferable


Nigel Parker
Systems Engineer
Ultraframe (UK) Ltd
Tel:   01200 452329
Fax:   01200 452201
Web:   www.ultraframe.com<http://www.ultraframe.com>
Email: mailto:[email protected]

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jon Harris
Sent: 28 January 2014 09:28
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Virtual machines

Licensing is something to take up with Microsoft but it sounds like maybe the 
original will be offline due to failure when the DR is live but if you are 
talking about a Hot DR you will need separate licensing for the host machines 
and possibly the virtual machines as well.

Jon

> Subject: [NTSysADM] Virtual machines
> Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 09:10:30 +0000
> From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
>
> Hi
> Looking for option for Disater recovery
> We use backupexec that can create hyperv machines and they work faultlessly
>
> Also thinking about not spending money unless we have to!
>
> The hyper v machines with 2008 comeback however they need re licensing, from 
> the test we have completed they work ok for a day However is there a way to 
> transfer the licence (I don't want to break any licensing agreements) so if 
> it means we have to buy another x number of 2008 server licenses then that's 
> what we will do, it would be just to run the machine as a virtual machine for 
> as long as it needs to repair the hardware and have the machine back up and 
> running physically.
>
> Having mirrored servers would be out as the cost would be to high
> All servers have a 24 hour 4 hour response
> Some are older servers running proprietary software so they are windows 2000 
> these come back no problem
>
> Would something like veam be able to transfer the physical license to a 
> virtual machine and then back or is this breaking licensing agreements with 
> Microsoft
>
> Again I don't want to break any licensing agreements but have to do this 
> "cheaply"
> The backup software we have creates the virtual machines and works fine, they 
> restore to physical or virtual servers without problems, just the licensing
>
> OR
> How long can I legally run a transferred 2008 server, do you get 30 days? If 
> so this would be more than enough to have the hardware back up,
>
> Nigel Parker
> Systems Engineer
> Ultraframe (UK) Ltd
> Tel:   01200 452329
> Fax:   01200 452201
> Web:   www.ultraframe.com<http://www.ultraframe.com>
> Email: mailto:[email protected]
>
>
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