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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Damien Solodow
Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2014 11:50 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] HP "Entitlement" Policy

It's Cisco; they obfuscate and make it as convoluted as possible. :)

DAMIEN SOLODOW
Systems Engineer
317.447.6033 (office)
317.447.6014 (fax)
HARRISON COLLEGE

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael B. Smith
Sent: Tuesday, February 4, 2014 12:47 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] HP "Entitlement" Policy

Cicsco used to separate it by families of products (I don't know what they do 
today, I spend little time on networking gear).

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Damien Solodow
Sent: Tuesday, February 4, 2014 12:41 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] HP "Entitlement" Policy

As long as you have at least one node under warranty I wonder if you can get 
the Proliant Service Pack and use Smart Update Manager to update the multiple 
boxes.

DAMIEN SOLODOW
Systems Engineer
317.447.6033 (office)
317.447.6014 (fax)
HARRISON COLLEGE

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael B. Smith
Sent: Tuesday, February 4, 2014 12:34 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] HP "Entitlement" Policy

This is the way Cisco has always been. And many of the newer generation of 
providers.

It's a recognition, albeit an unwelcome recognition, that support for hardware 
has a reasonable lifetime, and that continuing to support non-current-gen 
hardware and software has a cost.

Personally, I dread the book-keeping overhead this is going to add to my job.

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Roger Wright
Sent: Tuesday, February 4, 2014 12:08 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [NTSysADM] HP "Entitlement" Policy

Recent changes in HP's updates policy:

More Information on Access to HP Support Materials
Overview
HP designs, builds, and makes available a world-class knowledge base, powerful 
HP tools, and software and firmware downloads to its customers on a 
comprehensive range of HP's industry leading products. These HP support 
materials represent a significant investment and are a major part of the value 
of our customer support offerings.
You are only allowed to download and use support materials for the specific 
products you've purchased for your environment and which are under warranty or 
support. The terms governing your use of support materials provided under 
warranty or support are set forth in the contracts under which you purchased 
the equipment or support, respectively. Such terms also include exclusions, 
customer responsibilities and further eligibility requirements.
Currently, you may only access entitled support materials in the HP Support 
Center if you have equipment under a warranty or support agreement. We have 
refined access to support materials in some areas and you will only be able to 
access a product's support materials if you have an active warranty or support 
agreement covering that product. Over time, more areas in the HP Support Center 
will be similarly changed so that access to support materials is co-extensive 
to your warranty or support agreements entitlements.
- - -

So without an active support agreement, no more HP updates.  Makes it more 
costly for those of us with a few aging servers who want to maintain current 
firmware updates, etc.


Roger Wright
___

Masquerading as a normal person day after day is exhausting!




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