Cheers

Looks like I would have to join the host workstation to the (virtual guest) 
domain to achieve this...might give it a try


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-----Original Message-----
From: Miller Bonnie L. <[email protected]>
Sender: [email protected]: Mon, 21 Apr 2014 20:29:02 
To: [email protected]<[email protected]>
Reply-to: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] GPMC from non-domain machine

Ah—hadn’t thought of that.  Although it doesn’t explicitly mention Kerberos, a 
quick search and read of the content suggests you are probably correct:

“By default, you must have two-way trust between the domain you want to add and 
the domain of your user object.  You can also add domains across a one-way 
trust by disabling the trust detection feature of GPMC, using the Options 
dialog box on the View menu.”
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc786057(v=ws.10).aspx

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc738892(v=ws.10).aspx

Seems to indicate that at least a one-way trust is required, which you won’t 
have with a non-domain machine.

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Michael B. Smith
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014 10:14 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] GPMC from non-domain machine

I’m not certain that that is true. Exchange, at least, requires Kerberos auth. 
You can’t run the tools on a non-domain-joined machine. (You can remote 
PowerShell – if properly configured for CredSSP – to do the double hop.)

But honestly, I don’t know for this example.

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Miller Bonnie L.
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014 1:04 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] GPMC from non-domain machine

Agreed that runas SHOULD be able to work, but the non-domain joined VM will 
need to have some kind of name resolution to the domain for this to work.  If 
you don’t want to point it there via DNS, you may need to edit your hosts (or 
lmhosts) file to get it to work.  There are firewall considerations as well for 
the LDAP lookup to function.

-Bonnie

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[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Christopher Bodnar
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Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] GPMC from non-domain machine

You should be able to get it to work with a runAs. I mange a few remote domains 
this way:

C:\Windows\System32\runas.exe /netonly /user:RemoteDOMAIN\Jdoe "mmc 
c:\windows\system32\gpmc.msc /domain=RemoteDomain.contoso.com 
/server=Contosodc1.RemoteDomain.contoso.com"


But you should be able to join the workstation to the domain. Just log on 
locally, then after the VM's start up, log off and back on again. Or if they 
are started automatically, just give the DC time to spin up.
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and Engineering Services

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Date:        04/21/2014 10:13 AM
Subject:        [NTSysADM] GPMC from non-domain machine
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I have a non-domain workstation which hosts a variety of virtual machines that 
are in a domain. Is there any way I could run GPMC from this workstation which 
isn't joined to a domain? RunAs doesn't seem to cut it...

I could join the machine to the domain, but that would be a PITA as I try to 
capture a cached logon because obviously the DC would never be started as the 
workstation boots up....

Just wondering if there was a way around this or if it's just a complete "can't 
be done"

Cheers,



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James Rankin
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Practice Analyst - Desktop Virtualization
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