Network location profiles...I'm just sayin :)  2 minutes to delete and
recreate, 30 minutes to wait for results.


On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 9:00 AM, Melvin Backus <[email protected]>wrote:

>  We’ve considered that.  We’re going to swap the FW in a couple of weeks
> as part of something else, so that will eliminate that part, and as I said,
> we’ve got a temp solution, but we still need to figure out why this office
> does this and all the others work as expected.  Obviously something’s
> different, but we haven’t found it yet. J
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> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *John Cook
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 24, 2014 9:51 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* RE: [NTSysADM] RE: DNS server settings getting changed
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> Well at this point I’d add DHCP to another server (if you have one
> available) configure it identically and disable it on the current server to
> eliminate some possibilities. I’m sure you have other fish to fry and that
> may just be the resolution.
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> *From:* [email protected] [
> mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
> Behalf Of *Melvin Backus
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 24, 2014 9:41 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* RE: [NTSysADM] RE: DNS server settings getting changed
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> No reason I can think of.  Even if they resolved, they wouldn’t be
> accessible.  While I did consider malware, the fact that it reverts to our
> internal servers, and that those were where things would have legitimately
> pointed 6 weeks ago, make me think it’s more likely something else, but
> we’ve run out of ideas on what at this point, hence my query to the list.
> I try to never rule anything out until I can prove it’s something else.  It
> just gets moved down the list.
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> *From:* [email protected] [
> mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
> Behalf Of *Micheal Espinola Jr
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 24, 2014 9:25 AM
> *To:* ntsysadm
> *Subject:* Re: [NTSysADM] RE: DNS server settings getting changed
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> That software would be per-client.  Its a DNS hijacking trojan.
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> It seems odd that these systems are getting your Domain DNS.  Would those
> servers be providing resolution to systems that would otherwise not?  Would
> someone want to use your Domain DNS over what you are configuring?
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> On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 6:15 AM, Melvin Backus <[email protected]>
> wrote:
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> No, it’s changing back to our domain DNS.  Just curious though, did that
> only affect the machine with the software or was it able to touch other
> machines across the network?
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> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Jimmy Tran
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 24, 2014 9:12 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* [NTSysADM] RE: DNS server settings getting changed
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> Had this problem happen to two different clients.  The machines someone
> got some software called DNSchanger installed.  It would change DNS to
> 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4.
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> Are those the IP’s its changing to?
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> *From:* [email protected] [
> mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
> Behalf Of *Melvin Backus
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 24, 2014 5:27 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* [NTSysADM] DNS server settings getting changed
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> OK, this has been driving us nuts for a couple of days now.
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> One of our remote sites is seeing seemingly random PCs change their DNS
> server settings.  They’re all configured to get them from the DHCP server,
> and it has the correct DNS servers.  All the PCs do in fact get the correct
> settings when they get or renew an IP.  That all seems to be working as we
> expect.  But periodically we’ll see a machine change the DNS servers to
> something else.  This causes applications to start failing because the
> hosts they need no longer resolve.  As soon as the PC renews it’s IP,
> whether automatically or manually, everything goes back to normal and stuff
> works again.
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> We have a short term fix (force the DNS server settings manually instead
> of DHCP) but that doesn’t explain what’s going on, and since we’re using
> this same setup in 20 offices it also begs the question of why just this
> office.
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> Background:
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> Multiple small offices with either /28 or /27 networks.  They are publicly
> routable IPs due to requirements for a partner VPN.  The DHCP server is on
> the Juniper SSG FW.  It servers two pools, one for PCs, another for
> phones.  The PC subnet is publicly routable, the phone subnet is a
> non-routable 10.x subnet with matching ranges.  (12.x.x.x/27 and
> 10.x.x.x/27).  All DNS points to the home office.  Until recently these
> pointed strictly to our domain DNS servers.  As part of the VPN requirement
> we have set up a second set of DNS servers which are used to resolve hosts
> in the partner’s domains.  This is done with conditional forwarders.
> Partner DNS traffic gets resolved by their servers, everything else goes to
> our domain DNS or the Internet as required.
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> This all works fine except in a single office.  Even in that office it
> worked fine for weeks and has suddenly started this “revert” behavior.
> When the PCs change, they go back to pointing to our domain DNS which can’t
> resolve the partner hosts.
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> My question becomes (sorry it took so long) how do we track what is
> actually changing the DNS settings?  I can tell when it happens fairly
> easily, but nothing in the event logs, etc., seems to indicate what
> triggered it, or what process is doing it.  It doesn’t happen as part of a
> DHCP operation as best we can tell.
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> Melvin Backus | Sr. Systems Analyst | Byers Engineering Company |
> 404.497.1565
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