Dean has  found a thread with 2003 and 2012 dc's in the same domain that is 
exactly what was happening to me.

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Melvin Backus
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 11:18 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Win 7 workstations losing trust

I was under the impression that the last password was supposed to be usable as 
well to prevent this sort of thing.  Sort of on the order of "Something 
hiccups, passwords are no longer synced, the server checks to see if the last 
password prior to the current one matches, OK, do some validation then let the 
machine connect".  Did I dream that or has it changed?  I can see where it 
might be a security issue if there weren't sufficient validations, but for some 
reason I seem to recall reading something along that line.

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         those who understand binary and those who don't.

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jesse Rink
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 11:06 AM
To: ntsysadm
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Win 7 workstations losing trust


We've seen it that Win 7 machines lose their trust relationship in cases where 
perhaps a machine was powered down incorrectly, and when it reboots, a system 
restore is done from the last recovery point.  Once the machine comes back, it 
won't work on the domain anymore because the AD server(s) have a newer 
computer-password than the one from the system restore itself.  Machine has to 
be unjoined and rejoined at that point to get it working.



Jesse Rink

Source One Technology, Inc.

HP Partner

262 993 2231

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From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> on 
behalf of Dean Cunningham 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Sent: Sunday, October 5, 2014 9:12 PM
To: ntsysadm
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Win 7 workstations losing trust

Got any 2003DCs *and* 2012 R2 DCs in the AD environment?
Getting Event ID: 4 The Kerberos client received a KRB_AP_ERR_MODIFIED 
<http://britv8.com/event-id-4-the-kerberos-client-received-a-krb_ap_err_modified-windows-2003-and-windows-2012-r2-dc-environment/>

http://britv8.com/event-id-4-the-kerberos-client-received-a-krb_ap_err_modified-windows-2003-and-windows-2012-r2-dc-environment/

hotfix available


On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 10:55 PM, David McSpadden 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Why does this happen?
I get them rejoined but why do they lose their trust relationship in the first 
place?

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