How are you checking space allocation, just with a right-click & properties in 
Explorer?  Does your account have permissions all the way down the tree as an 
admin and you have UAC enabled?  If so, I'd suggest checking it another way as 
it will only count up the files/folders you "have permissions to".

-Bonnie

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of J- P
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 1:51 PM
To: NT
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Size on Disk HUGE discrepancy

Maybe I'm lacking coffee or scotch :)
but isn't this for files that are duplicated?

"Server 2012 Data Deduplication service MOVES duplicated 'chunks'"

This photo archive is the ONLY directory on the server  that contains these 
images

Jean-Paul Natola


> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 13:42:39 -0700
> Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Size on Disk HUGE discrepancy
> From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
>
> From the link provided previously:
>
> This is how you check the size of a deduped folder or path:(powershell, no
> ui) measure-dedupfilemetadata <path>
>
> More: "Server 2012 Data Deduplication service MOVES duplicated 'chunks'
> (bit level blocks of data) into the SYSTEM VOLUME INFORMATION folder and
> so Windows Explorer (and presumably other tools) just look at the residual
> non-duplicated chunks (like each files meta-data) that is still stored in
> the folder you think it is stored in. That is why Windows Explorer
> provides accurate but massively misleading information on the size of the
> files\folders in question"
>
> From this link:
> http://www.urtech.ca/2013/08/solved-why-does-data-deduplication-have-size-on-disk-and-deduplication-numbers-not-match/
>
> Dave
>
> > I'd suspect problems within the file and space allocation descriptors.
> >
> >
> >
> > Maybe worth your while to run a non-corrective check on the file system
> >
> > Note NON-CORRECTIVE = NON-DESTRUCTIVE.
> >
> >
> >
> > It could be that the dedup is correct if the files themselves have been
> > 'corrupted' by some process that happened earlier.
> >
> > That may have set the file entries so they are actually copies of the same
> > (few)
> > files and the system considers you have lots of hard-links to a few files.
> >
> >
> >
> > I have come across similar space allocation miss-reporting and the system
> > was
> > allowed to run in correction mode and effectively deleted thousands of
> > files.
> >
> >
> >
> > I also note you don't indicate which facility reported that space
> > allocation -
> > have you tries some utilities other than the built-in facilities.
> >
> >
> >
> > I have (hived away somewhere) a disk that shows thousands of files and no
> > space
> > used, and another that shows no files and almost no space left.
> >
> > They were kept for checking when I get to do that (if ever)
> >
> >
> >
> > JimB
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
> > [mailto:[email protected]] On
> > Behalf Of Tim Evans
> > Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 7:01 PM
> > To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
> > Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Size on Disk HUGE discrepancy
> >
> >
> >
> > That is a *very* impressive dedupe savings, from 112GB to 26.3MB,
> > something like
> > a 98% savings. While dedupe is a nice feature, I've never seen anything
> > close to
> > that kind of savings, especially on photos (I assume .JPG). I'd try to
> > copy them
> > to a non deduped volume and see what you get there.
> >
> >
> >
> > .Tim
> >
> >
> >
> > From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
> > [mailto:[email protected]] On
> > Behalf Of Kuhlman, Donald
> > Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 11:28 AM
> > To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
> > Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Size on Disk HUGE discrepancy
> >
> >
> >
> > Could the new server possibly have DeDuplication running causing it to
> > report
> > the De-Duped size on the disk?
> >
> >
> >
> > See below -
> > https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/fa6f6329-f710-4c5e-9538-942045
> > df68a3/windows-server-2012-with-deduplication-show-wrong-size-on-disk?forum=wins
> > erver8gen
> >
> >
> >
> > Running 2012 server with deduplicated volume (performed by windows
> > server).
> >
> > Volumesize is 5 TB, free space is 2,2 TB, reported Dedupliction rate is
> > 47%.
> > This I believe is correct.
> >
> > However the properties for the only folder on the drive reports:
> >
> > Size: 5,31 TB (5.848.049.807.909 bytes)
> > Size on disk: 90,7 GB (97.404.194.816 bytes)
> > Contains: 1.215.797 Files, 52.169 Folders
> >
> > There are only one folder in the root of the volume, why it's not just
> > files
> > that already resides in other folders on the volume.
> >
> > Individual folders shows correct values just after they are copied to the
> > volume, but after deduplication is run (and the retention period for the
> > files
> > has passed), Size on disk shows as very small.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
> > [mailto:[email protected]] On
> > Behalf Of J- P
> > Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 1:15 PM
> > To: NT
> > Subject: [NTSysADM] Size on Disk HUGE discrepancy
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > this may seem trivial ,however, this particular situation has me
> > concerned;
> >
> > We have a photo archive that's been around for about 15 years- it started
> > on a
> > 2k server, moved to a 2003,2008 and now its on a 2012r2 server.
> >
> > I know the norm is that the "size on disk" would be a bit bigger than
> > "size" due
> > to file system, cluster size etc..
> > but in this case its the reverse, and by A LOT, and NO, compression is not
> > enabled
> >
> > The directory 112 Gb, and contains 20,029 files and 414 folders, now size
> > on
> > disk only reports 26.3 MB (27,607,040 bytes) thats MEGS, NOT GIGS
> >
> > Is this something to be alarmed with?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>

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