Segmenting the iSCSI from the CIFS traffic is not a bad idea, if the NAS
supports multiple LAGs. Dedicating two NICs on the NAS to iSCSI would allow
you to configure Jumbo Frames (if supported) for that connectivity only.
Dedicating the other two for basic CIFS services means you wouldn't have to
extend Jumbo Frame support all the way to the client.

To clarify, the goal of creating a VLAN for iSCSI traffic is to segment
from all other traffic. Ideally, you would have dedicated NICs for iSCSI
while other client/server traffic would traverse their own interface(s). In
a perfect, fully redundant world, this would require 4 interfaces on your
server.

On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 2:30 PM, J- P <[email protected]> wrote:

> First I want to ideally present a LUN to the W2012 file server, which
> currently has 2 NIC;s (My thought was to VLAN the server , and the NAS
> using  2 NIC's on the NAS in LACP ).
>
> This now leaves 2 addl NICs on the NAS unused.
>
> Second , Create another LUN and create  CIFS share/s (for the Multimedia
> dept) using the remaining 2 NICS also in LACP
>
> So now I have redundancy on the iscsi LUN , and on the Media LUN
>
> I wont be ,for the time being,  going to into Clustering (CSV) on windows
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 11:49:02 -0800
> Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Synology LUNS and iscsi
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
>
> It might help if you explain how you plan to use the NAS. Are you going to
> present LUNs to your Windows server and then use that storage for typical
> shared file services? If that's the case, then yes, any clients accessing
> those shares will be limited to the connectivity from the server to the
> NAS. With that said, it looks like the unit you purchased supports CIFS so
> you can present shares directly from the device itself. Or like you
> mentioned, you may have multiple servers attached via iSCSI. Whether you
> leverage CIFS/iSCSI/etc., I would still recommend you use link aggregation
> for the NAS ports.
>
> - Sean
>
> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 11:28 AM, J- P <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> My thought is/was to connect them to the network.
> the confusion  is from my lack of understanding  of  iscsi  - the way
> interpreted it is that if i have  an iscsi target served by a windows
> server, then ALL traffic   MUST  go through the server to access  anything
> in that target   (so even if i have 20gb on nas/iscsi   target  ) im still
> limiteduby  the servers bandwidth. Is that correct?
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 11:15:06 -0800
> Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Synology LUNS and iscsi
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
>
> Well you're limited to 2GB on the host side regardless of how you
> configure the NAS ports. Aggregating the ports on the NAS will make the
> most efficient use of throughput to handle IO from multiple hosts.
>
> Out of curiousity, are you planning to attach the NAS to your network or
> direct connect the hosts to the NAS? Your questions lead me to believe you
> were considering the latter.
>
> - Sean
>
> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 11:04 AM, J- P <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Im just unclear  on one thing, hoping someone  can enlighten  me- as im
> new to iscsi
> if i vlan or group the 4 nics, but  the server only has 2- (current setup )
>
> Doesn't  all the traffic have to go through the servers 2 NICs?
> Essentially reducing everything down to 2Gb?
>
> Or am i totally  off with that  thought  process ?
>
>
> ------------------------------
> From: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Synology LUNS and iscsi
> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 10:26:28 -0800
> To: [email protected]
>
> No reason. Best practice would be to isolate the iSCSI traffic on a
> separate VLAN and configure the group address. I would imagine some type of
> port aggregation is supported by the NAS (LACP) so configure that on your
> switch for all 4 ports. I prefer to use at least one dedicated interface on
> the host side for iSCSI. You can configure the initiator to communicate via
> that interface. Also, if supported by the NAS and your switch, jumbo frames
> will provide better performance.
>
> If you can't isolate on a separate VLAN, still create the port group on
> your switch for the 4 ports.
>
> - Sean
>
> On Mar 25, 2015, at 9:48 AM, J- P <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> yes. should I then group/cluster 2 NICs for each server ?
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> From: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Synology LUNS and iscsi
> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 09:45:00 -0800
> To: [email protected]
>
> Do you ever plan on allocating storage to other servers?
>
> - Sean
>
> On Mar 25, 2015, at 9:18 AM, J- P <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> ok, but if I group/cluster the 4x 1GB NICs, but the server only has 2x 1GB
> NICs , isn't that like trying to put 4 cars on a 2 lane street ? limiting
> the bandwidth at 2GB?
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Synology LUNS and iscsi
> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 16:44:34 +0000
>
>  To the iscsi, I’m not familiar with Synology, but does it have a “group
> IP”, AKA cluster IP, that you always access and works across all four
> NICs?  If so, then you will likely use that group IP as your target.  If it
> supports MPIO, you could then connect from both server NICs.
>
>  *From:* [email protected] [
> mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
> Behalf Of *J- P
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 25, 2015 9:07 AM
> *To:* NT
> *Subject:* [NTSysADM] Synology LUNS and iscsi
>
>  Hi all,
>
> Just got the 8 bay synology in, I Have 5 drives in raid10 with a hot spare
> (total usable 12TB)
>
>  I see that I have the Option for Block-level or File level LUNS,  I see
> that the file level has more options (thin provisioning among others)
>
> This NAS will only house data (will not run VM's off them , not yet at
> least) a large portion of the will be  media (Video footage)
>
> Q1. Does anyone recommend or advise one format (Block-Level File-Level)
> over the other?
>
> Q2. Second question may seem dumb but I have never used iscsi before so
> bear with me & forgive my ignorance
>
> The Synology has 4x 1GB nic ports,  the Hyper V server (w2012) only has 2x
> 1GB ports, as this will be an iscsi target am I correct in thinking that
> unless my server gets 2 more NIC cards, there will be no benefit to using
> the 4 NICs on the Synology?
>
> My thought is (assuming the above is accurate) would be to create 2 LUNS ,
> one for iscsi target, using 2 NICs,  and second one for direct access to
> Synology using the other 2 NICs.
>
> TIA
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Jean-Paul Natola
>
>
>
>
>

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