Strike one against Citrix! :)

But seriously - I don't remember anyone saying that (though you might
well have - I have memory leaks), and he didn't mention Citrix, so I
think he's probably safe in that regard.

Besides, why would anyone implement Citrix on a machine with
directories that large anyway?

Kurt

On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 4:33 PM, Webster <[email protected]> wrote:
> In the Citrix world, turning off short file name creation breaks a LOT of 
> things. At one time that was a recommendation from Citrix Consulting until 
> support got flooded with calls.
>
>
> Webster
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
> On Behalf Of Kurt Buff
> Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 6:23 PM
> To: ntsysadm <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] RE: Windows 2008 R2 server
>
> Generally, any directory with more than 10,000 files will be slow to browse 
> or manipulate. Turn off short file name creation. See this article for some 
> more details https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc781134.aspx
>
> The article mention 300k files, but I've consistently run into problems with 
> as few as 10k.
>
> This article is old, but still mostly good:
> http://www.windowsdevcenter.com/pub/a/windows/2005/02/08/NTFS_Hacks.html
>
>
> On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 11:33 AM, Scott Schneider 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Thanks for all the suggestions.
>>
>> I  disabled RSS and Chimney offload, it made no difference. It is a 4
>> port Qlogic (Broadcom)  1 GB card in the server. I updated the drivers
>> to latest on Dell’s site. When I put a second network card in the
>> backup server and put it on a separate closed switch (only the 2
>> servers attached to the switch), I get the same slow throughput.
>>
>> The folder I am using for the test has 31 GB, 13694 folders and 517798
>> files. It is consistently slow.  A folder that copies quickly has 18
>> GB,
>> 31768 files and 795 folders.
>>
>> I see there is a firmware update for the Qlogic card. I may be able to
>> try that after hours.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: [email protected]
>> [mailto:[email protected]]
>> On Behalf Of Rene de Haas
>> Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 1:47 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] RE: Windows 2008 R2 server
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes, I read about those as well, however since it's only certain
>> folders my guess is it's something else.
>>
>> Does it matter at what time you do the copy? Any file in that folder?
>> To which server?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 6:31 PM, Kennedy, Jim
>> <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Check the nic settings. Disable RSS and Chimney offload.
>>
>>
>>
>> https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/951037
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: [email protected]
>> [mailto:[email protected]]
>> On Behalf Of Scott Schneider
>> Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 12:07 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: [NTSysADM] Windows 2008 R2 server
>>
>>
>>
>> Has anyone ever run across a really poor performance copying specific
>> folders from 2008 R2? We have a 1 GB backbone with HP switches.  I did
>> my test copying to a windows 2012 R2 fully patched server (which is
>> the same Dell backup server using Arcserve). Both servers are fully
>> patched. The production server is a file server, and also an app
>> server, using apache and a canned Oracle database. Max connections are
>> 50 endpoints. I noticed the performance hit running our nightly
>> backups. Overall throughput crawled to around 1 GB per minute, it used
>> to run at about 3 GB per minute. I set up a private network for
>> copying/backup and the speed didn’t improve. I then experimented with
>> trying individual folder copies. That is when I noticed some folders
>> would copy at 80 to 100 MB per second, while others would copy at 7 to 8 MB 
>> per second.
>>
>> A second almost identical server Dell 2008 R2 server with the Oracle
>> database consistently gets 3+ GB throughput for the nightly backup.
>> It doesn’t exhibit the slow throughput. No other servers in our
>> environment experience the slow throughput.
>>
>>
>>
>> Strangely the  issue only appears with copying specific folders. Any
>> ideas, I’m stumped…..
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>>
>> Scott Schneider
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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